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  • Kraken07
    Kraken07  2 days back

    This one was awful. To sit there and say kickoff returns are not entertaining or do very little for the game is flat out wrong!

    • Carl Espen
      Carl Espen  2 days back

      Cordarrelle Patterson just scored his 7th kickoff return. This guy man

      • Guhbs Beats
        Guhbs Beats  2 days back

        SBNATIONWHAT IS THE SONG

        • Guhbs Beats
          Guhbs Beats  2 days back

          Song name in beginning

          • Selfish Stockton
            Selfish Stockton  3 days back

            The best part about kickoffs is that there isn’t

            • gael 06
              gael 06  3 days back

              2:42 I saw this when Cordelle Paterson returned a kick for a TD for the Bears against the Saint in week 7 of the 2019/20 season.

              • Scott
                Scott  3 days back

                Apparently the "be Cordarrelle Patterson" advice still works.

                • dk6024
                  dk6024  3 days back

                  4th & 20 instead?

                  • Thomas Daly
                    Thomas Daly  3 days back

                    Did you get dropped as a kid? Or maybe you got returned on one too many times but kickoff returns are not boring m8. Maybe kicks are but the guy making the run and the blockers made great plays

                    • ektopia
                      ektopia  3 days back

                      Fantastic vid. Love the presentation, too. Cheers.

                      • Chicken Boi
                        Chicken Boi  4 days back

                        “It makes all the sense in the world, so no”

                        pretty much sums up the nfl

                        • Gretta GG
                          Gretta GG  5 days back

                          Question about the Schiano Proposal: Are all the same penalties that can result in a 1st down still applicable in this 4th and 15 scenario...maybe only if they send their QB out there instead of a punt formation. Does anyone know how this could affect the successful conversation rate listed. I understand trying to draw an offsides call when the defense most expects it is not likely but i've also seen a lot of 3rd and hopeless downs get converted because of some penalty. I feel like QBs like Aaron Rodgers get pretty lucky in this type of situation. Anyway just a thought that I didn't see mentioned in his stats at the end.

                          • Burkette
                            Burkette  6 days back

                            I like that the AAFL tried Schiano. It was kinda interesting

                            • Hawx - FimerianOfficial

                              OK but you could just stack your offense and spend no cap space on defense, and go for the 4th and 15 each time. We've never seen a super stacked offense, I think it would just change the game.

                              • SchwerMetall154
                                SchwerMetall154  1 weeks back

                                Damn AAF, used the Schiano plan (except it was 4th and 12) and replaced kickoffs with starting on a team's 25, just to crash and burn from greed and poor management.
                                Hope it enough to make a slight impact in changing the NFL's perceptions.


                                That and also how San Antonio and Orlando need football teams.

                                • lotrdude13
                                  lotrdude13  1 weeks back

                                  "Would the NFL ever adopt this rule? It makes all the sense in the world, so no!" Lmao

                                  • John Vane
                                    John Vane  1 weeks back

                                    If someone could explain why the ball goes on the ground and not in the air on an onside kick I’d appreciate it. Does it have something to do with how possession is decided because In Rugby League where it is also an emergency tactic the ball goes in the air on most occasions. In League a fumble where the ball travels forward from the defending team results in a change of possession.

                                    • Michael
                                      Michael  1 weeks back

                                      You should hang out with Ernie Adams, the Patriots stats guru.

                                      • Zoomer30
                                        Zoomer30  1 weeks back

                                        That's nothing, I scored a goal in bowling while serving.


                                        The "kickoff touchdown" is well known to me. A friend of mine in high school sometimes would not cover the a kickoff in Sega Genesis Madden 93. I ran down got the ball and scored. I'm like "it's just a really long onside kick, you need to cover it"

                                        • DanielSong39
                                          DanielSong39  2 weeks back

                                          It's one person's opinion. I disagree.

                                          • Mike Hurt
                                            Mike Hurt  2 weeks back

                                            I hate kickoffs because after 3 minutes of commercials they do a touchback which last 5 seconds and then back to commercials

                                            • robin Hobin
                                              robin Hobin  2 weeks back

                                              15:20

                                              • rainbow sparkle jewel: it,it

                                                About the use of onside kicks in the early days: The ball didn't get pointy until 1912 or so. It was a regular rugby ball prior to that. The changed ball was to make it easier to throw to promote use of the forward pass (forward pass was put in around 1907). This would probably also be the reason drop kicks aren't done anymore.

                                                • Cody Maggard
                                                  Cody Maggard  2 weeks back

                                                  A problem with the schiano proposal is that if a team is obviously outmatched, they'd never get a chance to have the ball. The offense would go for it every time. Even with the best punts, it still puts your opponent midfield, instead of s touchback distance, or possibly even less. I love how it is safer, but the plan just doesn't properly replace all the important parts of a kickoff

                                                  • Mr. Hitman
                                                    Mr. Hitman  2 weeks back

                                                    Instead I think teams should have to convert two 4th and 5s, so the converting team could run or throw. A believe a 4th and 15 would force offense to retain the ability to create long passing opportunity, out of a 45 man roster, hampering teams like the Bears who designed their offenses around the run game. But requiring the two sets of downs, so that the odds of converting stay around 20%.

                                                    • joshua hill
                                                      joshua hill  2 weeks back

                                                      I dont like your opinion here.

                                                      • stun2187
                                                        stun2187  3 weeks back

                                                        I like the suggestion but if you implemented make it take it the chiefs would never give up the ball

                                                        • stun2187
                                                          stun2187  3 weeks back

                                                          It might not seem like a sig difference but it’s easily the difference between wins and losses over that sample size

                                                          • DeeZeeOoo
                                                            DeeZeeOoo  3 weeks back

                                                            Also you literally used a horrible example of why they should be abolished. Bc the jets essentially recovered a 65 yard onside kick their stupid and bad? Really? ......most exciting part of the game. Watching your team bust off a huge run is awesome, and it's equally draining when watching the opposing team do so. Kickoffs are awesome and great. Love the videos but this one gets a downvote.

                                                            • DeeZeeOoo
                                                              DeeZeeOoo  3 weeks back

                                                              Kickoffs are an integral and important part of the game. Field position is extremely important and many classic and game changing moments happen. 20 seconds left and your down by a FG or less and the other team has to kickoff to you. If they squib they might give up to much yardage and allow an easier way into FG range. If they kickoff through the endzone they give up 25 free yards and still have 20 seconds to prevent around 40 yards of offense or they can try n kickoff so you have to return and possibly stop the other team inside the 20, while also giving an equal chance to the return team to bust a huge return off and get into FG range before the offense even gets back on the field. Ruining that sequence by getting rid of kickoffs is blasphemous and stupid. Data does not work for certain things, kickoffs being one. You cannot predict a kickoff bc pretty much ANYTHING can happen, and whatever does happen plays a gigantic role in the outcome. The way they changed it too is almost perfect, getting rid of it entirely would be a huge loss to the game. Sorry, it's not stupid nor bad, it's a part of the game and should, and hopefully will, be a part of it forever.

                                                              • gdragon521
                                                                gdragon521  3 weeks back

                                                                "Nick Folk kicks off 65 yards, touchdown" is one of the funniest things I've ever read

                                                                • Bakorafanboy13
                                                                  Bakorafanboy13  3 weeks back

                                                                  I want to see a team essentially pull off the football version of the fun and gun (Troy State vs DeVry)

                                                                  Every kickoff is onside

                                                                  If you practiced enough they should be able to get it about 50% of the time.

                                                                  You could do this for two reasons

                                                                  You are incredibly confident in both offense and defense. You know you can stop the opponents’ offense with a 3 and out and lead to a field goal
                                                                  You are also confident in your offense’s ability to have a touchdown every other drive
                                                                  You’d be trading 3 points for 7

                                                                  Option 2: You have no faith in your defense
                                                                  You want them to get off the field as early as possible

                                                                  It essentially counters running out the clock by giving the opposing offense only about 4 sets of downs rather than 7 or 8

                                                                  There you need to be more confident in your offense’s ability to score whenever you are on the field, getting 10 points in back to back drives to answer the 7 the opponent gets

                                                                  • Thomas Prendergast
                                                                    Thomas Prendergast  3 weeks back

                                                                    Full of yourself, much?
                                                                    The entire 'BORING' argument is asinine. The reset of team changes give the rhythm to the game, and each kick, in that specific bell curve, adds to the excitement for someone with half a brain.
                                                                    But that is an opinion, which was the same thing your starting argument. Which leaves the whole argument moot.

                                                                    • Hank Venture
                                                                      Hank Venture  3 weeks back

                                                                      music bad

                                                                      • Blaze Rod Needs 10,000 Subs

                                                                        I love it when the kicker scores the game winning kick off

                                                                        • sQvQge
                                                                          sQvQge  3 weeks back

                                                                          Give teams a choice between starting on the 25 and an onside kick.

                                                                          • Dalton Robert Pepple
                                                                            Dalton Robert Pepple  3 weeks back

                                                                            4:49 Damn bro

                                                                            • girhen
                                                                              girhen  3 weeks back

                                                                              Alright, I work in data for a living. Why am I spending my free time watching things called "Chart Party" for fun? And why does this bring me such joy?

                                                                              • snake_z
                                                                                snake_z  3 weeks back

                                                                                as a kicker, i can totally relate to this

                                                                                • The Burned Man
                                                                                  The Burned Man  3 weeks back

                                                                                  As a kicker I can’t agree with this

                                                                                  • The Burned Man
                                                                                    The Burned Man  2 weeks back

                                                                                    Riff Dane i still do run down on my kickoffs actually and have made several tackles this year and I actually like kickoffs since it sun booting the ball 40-50 yards

                                                                                  • Riff Dane
                                                                                    Riff Dane  3 weeks back

                                                                                    You're usually not the one running full speed down the field after the ball going up in the air, risking severe injury. You'll still have plenty of chances to kick, to actually score points.

                                                                                • Firebolt131
                                                                                  Firebolt131  3 weeks back

                                                                                  liked the 17776 easter egg

                                                                                  • Slim
                                                                                    Slim  3 weeks back

                                                                                    I just noticed the 17776 reference. Cryin rn

                                                                                    • Random Roleplays
                                                                                      Random Roleplays  4 weeks back

                                                                                      If we REMOVE kick-offs then we won't have our 16-20 extra 2-3 minute commercial breaks! That would save us an average of 40 mins of NFL worshipping GLORY! So yeah, we NEED our kick-offs. Because who doesn't love wasting their time watching precious ads that generate revenue for BILLIONAIRES ? ? ?

                                                                                      • Vinz ScAtl24
                                                                                        Vinz ScAtl24  4 weeks back

                                                                                        I actually like this idea except for one thing. If a team is down lets say 3 points with 1:00 left in the fourth quarter and drive down the field and score a touchdown and kick the extra point and go up by 4 with 5 seconds left they could just go for the 4th and 15 and waste the last 5 seconds or whatever time is left, not giving the other team a chance to maybe return the punt for a touchdown or down the ball and throw a hail mary or whatever, it wouldn't be fair. Now if they also made it a rule that after the 2 minute warning in the fourth quarter only you had to punt the ball and didn't have the option to go for it then it would work but then you are somewhat making the decision for the team because if they were still doing the regular kickoff they could do an onside kick and recover the ball and end the game which is basically like going for the 4th and 15 and being successful or just running around to run the clock out. So that wouldn't work either. Also would they allow the offense to recover the punt on a 4th and 15 after a score so teams could shank the punt and maybe get a recovery like an onside kick? If they ever do adopt this rule maybe they can make it so the clock doesn't run on the 4th and 15 after a score if the team attempts to go for the conversion unless they do punt it and then it only starts when the receiving team touches the ball unless they call for a fair catch so that the team that just scored and took the lead with very little time left would be more prone to kick the ball to them than go for it since they wouldn't be able to just run the clock out by just running around until the clock hits 00:00. Teams wouldn't want to take a chance at not converting and giving the opponent good field position and time on the clock since no time would be took off the clock on that play. Sorry if this is confusing but it would make things more interesting I think.

                                                                                        • Tyeson Capener-Hunt
                                                                                          Tyeson Capener-Hunt  4 weeks back

                                                                                          Even though this is a good idea, I think a change like this would start rolling the ball of getting rid of kicking and punting in the nfl all togther. Which im not a fan of.

                                                                                          • Chris Fazio
                                                                                            Chris Fazio  4 weeks back

                                                                                            You absolutely ROASTED the NFL at the end there

                                                                                            • Hello24
                                                                                              Hello24  4 weeks back

                                                                                              This is why the AAF was the league we deserved, but it wasn't the league we needed right now.....

                                                                                              • I am the Senate
                                                                                                I am the Senate  1 months back

                                                                                                For an onside kick they can attempt a 4 and 10 from their own 35 yard line it’s no different than attempting an onside kick