Game of Thrones Season 8 - The Bells Spoiler Discussion

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  • Chris JM
    Chris JM  3 months back

    Are you guys kidding? Where’s the “disconnect” between Daenerys in The Bells and in every other episode? Have you forgotten…
    In season 2 ep4 when she screamed to the Qartheen, "When my dragons are grown, we will lay waste to armies and burn cities to the ground!" How did you interpret that statement?
    In season 4 ep7 when she told Jorah, "They can live in my new world or they can die in their old one." How did you interpret that?
    In season 5 ep5 when she brought a bunch on random nobles to her dragons, a dragon killed one, and then she admitted that they might all be innocent, but the dragons would decide who's innocent and who's guilty.
    In season 2 ep6 when she said “I will take what is mind with fire and blood!”
    In season 4 ep4 when she crucified 163 people without trial and then called it “justice.”
    These are only a few examples. There are dozens more.

    • The Irish Elk
      The Irish Elk  5 months back

      The death cercie got was simply not hard enough😤

      • Just a sweaty try hard
        Just a sweaty try hard  5 months back

        do destiny next plz so much damn lore espeically the books of sorrow and hive lore

        • Wavepool
          Wavepool  5 months back

          What would’ve happened if the Mountain was totally obedient?

          The Hound would still be standing below them on the steps, threatening them and the Mountain would have to fight him.

          A compete waste of dialogue meant to excuse the Mountain suddenly killing Qybern. Which would be fine, if it didn’t make Cersei and Qybern look dumb as hell. It’s such a small thing, and yet it feels like a good example of the style over substance writing that has taken over this show.

          • jon b
            jon b  5 months back

            the night king was just a misdirect , he was there so you never questioned who the main villain was , and it was never cersei shes not important thats why she does nothing in this season. and Danny isnt mad she believes shes right.

            • Heather B
              Heather B  5 months back

              I love you guys. I’m not going anywhere.

              • Janet Wagenseller
                Janet Wagenseller  5 months back

                Aegon Targaryen lord of Dragonstone with Ghost by his side now that would have been suitable ending for Jon Snow bastard of Winterfell.

                • Kate Blank
                  Kate Blank  5 months back

                  She threatened to destroy Kings Landing multiple times, and had multiple people asking her not to, and she never once actually said, okay, I won't do it. Missandei told her to burn it all, and she did.

                  • Heriberto Flores
                    Heriberto Flores  5 months back

                    I think her becoming the mad queen was perfect because it was a snap she just cracked it’s not that difficult to believe

                    • Davey Jones
                      Davey Jones  5 months back

                      I feel so bad for Aaron. Losing his goddamn mind.

                      • Davey Jones
                        Davey Jones  5 months back

                        She’s not the mad queen. What she did was sustained and calculated. And so that makes her evil, not mad. And Dany has never been close to being evil.

                        • Maria Ozawa Sex Video
                          Maria Ozawa Sex Video  5 months back

                          Jon Snow really does know nothing

                          • Tim Friday
                            Tim Friday  5 months back

                            The thing with Raeghal is maybe they should have shown more bolts in the air. they had a WHOLE FLEET of boats all with a scorpion, so there woulda probably been like 30-60 bolts in the air, if they showed that, and Raeghal like, swooping to block a bunch that were headed for dany on drogon, maybe it could have seemed more believable and woulda been more impactful? but, the idea is...dany needed to lose he other 'child' to further break dany so it was understandable she went all mad queen. But, there were so many little things they wanted to do right, they missed the mark on a few big things. But I also thing we have SUCH high expectations of this show, that no matter what we wouldn't have been 100% in love with this final season. i just can't wait to read how GRRM plays it all out.

                            • Tim Friday
                              Tim Friday  5 months back

                              The point is, daenerys has been crazy the whole time. It's just that as the spectator, we make excuses for the crazy decisions she's made. She makes those distant looks, lookin crazy all the time. In the books they go into her thoughts about the crazy revenge she wanted on all the people. When she burns the tarly's. Like, she's I think tyrion building her up saying she'll be a great ruler was built up maybe a lil too much. I think maybe they should have tyrion kinda seemingly more goaded into being her advisor, instead of him falling head over heels for her. I think maybe there was 1 more episode where they show her decent into madness. Ordering crazy shit. Almost a full episode about her becoming crazy, and then maybe we would have been more ok with it. If she talked about missing meisande. if she had a moment with drogon and they both looked super sad about rhaegar dying. an extgended seen of her trying to get jon to love her. I think that was all we really wanted she had about 4 mins of screen time before she went nutzoid. if we saw the emotional toll taken on her a lil more, woulda been better. But, i think it was supposed to also be a moment that blew our minds. and it did. We're complaining that GoT surprised us....I mean, book readers knew ned would die but, if we didn't know that woulda blew our mind. The red wedding....jon getting stabbed. rikkon dying...like the show/books PURPOSELY fuck with our minds and this did that again and now were mad and surpised about it? come on guys. You could make the argument there is more development they could have put into dany losing her mind. but, maybe adding 10-20 mins of danys decent into madness but then, how we do that with 1.5 hr long episodes? so maybe shave a bit off a few other eps and add one more full ep? I bet they cut so much footage to even make the eps as 'short' as they did. They rushed the last season a little and we as the audience can tell that and that does suck. I would have preferred a full season of episodes instead of long episodes or maybe just have the battle of winterfell a long ep. coulda prob edited it so one full ep was the battle of winterfell and one full ep of fall of kinds landing where it ends with them like, everyone setup to start the fight so we know 'OH SHIT NEXT EPISODE THEY GUNNA FIGHT!' But i'm not mad with how they did it. at all. I'm just kinda greedy and woulda liked another 3 hrs of GoT.

                              • Hong Chua
                                Hong Chua  5 months back

                                Jon denied rage sex from Dany rip Westeros it's all Jon's fault you know nothing Jon snow

                                • TheComeUp18
                                  TheComeUp18  5 months back

                                  That's right! Jon should have gave his aunt the real long claw.

                              • Grimoire666
                                Grimoire666  5 months back

                                19:56- Cersei sees colossal sized elephants that tower over over King's Landing being brought over: We have the elepha-
                                Daenerys proceeds to unceremoniously reduce the elephants to bones.
                                Cersei whelps.

                                • richie harrow
                                  richie harrow  5 months back

                                  It’s clearly obvious they’re making Jon wuss out because of the relation to Dany. It’s stupid he won’t hook up with her any more because of that, it’s not like she raised him... they just met and Targs do that anyway to maintain bloodlines... something Dany should’ve rebuttaled with. Varys is the only one who mentioned Jon won’t because they don’t do that in the north where he was raised... kinda dumb cuz again, he just met her, I could see if he knew her from birth. Like cmon.

                                  Also, Jon n Dany make a great couple... she was obsessed with him from the moment they met, n actually incredibly intrigued when she heard about him from Melisandre n Tyrion. Jon was obviously wanting to hit that the moment he saw her too... grabbing her hand in the cave n shyt.

                                  • ßirdworks TM
                                    ßirdworks TM  5 months back

                                    where’s the fuckin’ link to the video you mentioned, Bo? God damn it, what the fuck is this, you said 'I’ll put the link in the description’, so I look in the description - no fuckin link, fucker. For fucks sake, now I’ve looked in the description for nothing, mother fucker. You think I’ve got all this free fuckin time, to look for links where there aint no fuckin links? Where’s the fuckin link, Bo?






                                    Sorry, man. Don’t know what got into me.
                                    Enjoy the last episode, mate. Well, I hope you do, because if you do then maybe I will too.

                                    • thomas b
                                      thomas b  5 months back

                                      i don't get why they had to make all of these episodes just shocking people in every way possible, its like they are purposely making it make less sense just for shock value, it should have been jon, just like in harry potter, we all knew he would win and the way the story panned out it was satisfying but most importantly made sense, harry dying was the long night and him coming back and killing Voldemort at the end was still tense, this was a kids book and it still made more sense, its like the GoT crew tried to outsmart themselves and just tripped themselves up

                                      • Johnny Metal
                                        Johnny Metal  5 months back

                                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBxvXswXm_s


                                        THIS LINK IS FOR ALLL THE GOT ENTITLED PETITION Cowerds

                                        • cbrend22
                                          cbrend22  5 months back

                                          Tyrion and Varys talked about the aunt thing, and Tryion reluctantly acquiesces that their marriage was a non starter for a northerner. It’s not necessary for John to utter the words, people get it.

                                          • cbrend22
                                            cbrend22  5 months back

                                            Not convinced?? Her response to EVERYTHING in her life was to kill. She stole the unsullied and killed the slave masters. Slavery was the law of the land for multiple cities for thousands of years. Free the slaves.....fine, everyone agrees....killing the maters was a choice. Killing the Tarleys was a choice, because she doesn’t want prisoners. She could have escaped Vaes Dothrak, but she chose to stay and kill everyone. She threatened to kill Varys( and did) and Tyrion, they were some of her closest advisors. Her response to everything was death. Sooner or later you have to understand that, it’s not normal. I’m sure the writers are disturbed that people don’t view homicidal response to every issue as a problem. It is.

                                            • Korin
                                              Korin  5 months back

                                              "she drank a lil, she smirked" lmfaooo this has me weak because that's honestly all cersei really did 😭so many wasted characters

                                              • Alexander Nielsen
                                                Alexander Nielsen  5 months back

                                                I would have preferred Jaime to mercy kill Cersei and then have the last episode of Dany facing Jaime and possibly burning him in front of everyone at it not being justified.

                                                • Ellie Hess
                                                  Ellie Hess  5 months back

                                                  Danny has no identity out of being queen. All the other people who lost people had things to turn to or follow. Danny has nothing

                                                  • sk8777kid1
                                                    sk8777kid1  5 months back

                                                    Had two of the biggest villains in GoT die in the timeframe of three fucking episodes. The night king which is the ultimate villain, damn near fucking unbeatable and cut down in a matter of seconds. Cersei was barely even in this season. She was one of the most conniving political figures in this universe to become the head of the ultimate kingdom in this world and she does absolutely nothing. ITS FUCKING STUPID! It’s just so blatantly rushed, I feel like the writers were like, let’s be done with this show and move on. I’m tired of this, they don’t care wether it was good or not.

                                                    • T 670
                                                      T 670  5 months back

                                                      You fucking smug fucks defending her just burning people with Dragon Fire like that is normal and like she doesn't want power . She has wanted Power for years . The Take's video comparing her to Cersei is superior than you fucks whining about her journey

                                                      • Ruben Isaguirre
                                                        Ruben Isaguirre  5 months back

                                                        I was also so very disappointed with the writers and DD for this season. Building the audience and these brilliant actors, only to let us down.🤦‍♂️

                                                        • Glyn Keegan
                                                          Glyn Keegan  5 months back

                                                          At 52:27 he definitely said 10 out of 10, and not a 10 episode season.

                                                          • Ruben Isaguirre
                                                            Ruben Isaguirre  5 months back

                                                            Love your pod cast on GOT episode 5, insightful, rational discussion, with some humor thrown in. I chuckled several time.🐲 ♥️😄

                                                            • Ankit Das
                                                              Ankit Das  5 months back

                                                              I thought Dany was going to pull a Harrenhaal on the red keep like Aegon did. this so much worse. By the way does the iron throne still stand???

                                                              • J.A. Ren
                                                                J.A. Ren  5 months back

                                                                Sounds like Marissa just hates the show in general. I love her and value her opinion. All I hear is negativity for the most part though. Always her initial reactions for an episode is she didn’t like it and how bad it was

                                                                • TheEowyn22
                                                                  TheEowyn22  5 months back

                                                                  Fire affects different stones different way. Harranhal and the Red Keep are not made of the same thing. 🙄

                                                                  • TheEowyn22
                                                                    TheEowyn22  5 months back

                                                                    Nerd Soup has been my fave GoT content. You’ve always been level - pointing out good and bad. Now it just feels like you jumped on the haters bandwagon. Aaron at least is looking big pic. And I can’t stand Marissa, which sucks as a fellow female nerd. Does she freaking like anything? She only started watching live with season 7 and seems to have hated them all. It’s so annoying. I don’t wanna listen to someone discuss with nothing but negativity.

                                                                    • Miguel Rosales Llano
                                                                      Miguel Rosales Llano  5 months back

                                                                      We can speculate a lot, but the real thing is that HBO wanted 10 seasons deal. So... guess what! 2 seasons of work that would have blow up any chances for Dumb and Dumb for taking Star Wars lead wrtitting. I mean, these guys should have let someone finish the job, just for having fans happy but they didnt.

                                                                      • Dora In Coimbra
                                                                        Dora In Coimbra  5 months back

                                                                        Cleganebowl was pure fan service, particularly for the guys.

                                                                        • Dora In Coimbra
                                                                          Dora In Coimbra  5 months back

                                                                          I honestly can't believe RR Martin doesn't know how to tie up an ending.

                                                                          • Matt Finley
                                                                            Matt Finley  5 months back

                                                                            Clegane bowl should have driven plot, not been an end in itself. Hack writing.

                                                                            • Matt Finley
                                                                              Matt Finley  5 months back

                                                                              The word you are looking for is "proportionality". -The more you know ;)

                                                                              • Han Thomas
                                                                                Han Thomas  5 months back

                                                                                Y'all still aren't being logical: you're all on board with Danny going mad queen. But you 'didn't like' this happening in the episode. Which is the penultimate one. If not now then when? yes some better build up would be nice, but IF you're on board with her going mad queen then what happened in the episode was perhaps 'overdue' but it HAD to happen. So you can't not like it, this is where the story had to go and it finally got there.

                                                                                • Savage Wraith
                                                                                  Savage Wraith  5 months back

                                                                                  Aaron is in actual denial. "this was almost a 10/10 episode it just needed a couple of things." "I don't think they were expecting fuckin hellfire." just like Dany forgot about Euron? "why are you acting like you hate the whole fucking season now?!" Maybe because it's sinking in that they blew the final season, rushed it, wrapped it up, and cut it short just to go ruin Star Wars more than it has been? If you like The Last Jedi, and still defending GoT and Dan & Dave, didn't care about The Night King and The Long Night, but excited for Cersei?

                                                                                  She didn't learn to fight with her Dragon, she had plot armor. They needed more than one season for mad queen, let alone 2 episodes. If you can't come to terms with the horrible writing ruining this show, you likely never will. The acting, sets, visuals, music, sound fantastic. 10/10. But even the main cast is not happy with the ending. Dan and Dave are just hacks that wanted that Star Wars clout/cash.

                                                                                  "they did the best they could with what they had" get real. When every other fan with internet access can write a better season 8, they didn't even try. Let alone care to pay off the viewer's expectations. Even the best cast and crew couldn't redeem the hack job writing.

                                                                                  • Nathanael Brock
                                                                                    Nathanael Brock  5 months back

                                                                                    Has Jenny's song been a reference to Jamie and Cersei this whole time ?

                                                                                    • ones might
                                                                                      ones might  5 months back

                                                                                      I liked the episode the whole time Dany was in Westeros she been trying to be merciful and if bit her in the ass. Now she showed her streanth and completely took over the capital so she did right. Plus if she would of shown mercy Cerci would had something up her sleeve. Dany had no choice but to destroy the capital to be the world.

                                                                                      • StefanMewa
                                                                                        StefanMewa  5 months back

                                                                                        Since day one she was privileged millennial brat!

                                                                                        • Christopher S
                                                                                          Christopher S  5 months back

                                                                                          The power of influence is so real. This episode was really good. But now with this huge wave of negative momentum every single word is scrutinize and every scene diminished. I seriously think there is some sort of psyops going on bc this is too bizarre. D and D have written other things, successful movies. How could they be as bad as people are saying? We literally have 16 year olds talking about writing techniques and such ha. This is so bizarre. Daby has been on the verge of snapping for a long time. Plus she is a Targaryen. Shes nuts, she smiled while being raped in season 1, she burned the witch in season 1 with no emotion, watched her brother's face decenagrate with no emotion, locked her friend in a vault to die of hunger, killed the unsullied owner bc he was mean to her, burned all the masters when slavery was simply an enterprise in the realm of Esteros. She burned a father and son together for not bending the knee, she had the former slave killed and disobeying etc. Plus she needed to instill fear! It's not that the plot or writing is badd it's just that in they aren't giving us self as viewers what we want and we are so arrogant nowadays that we think our cheesy fanfiction is what the show should give us.

                                                                                          • Eddie Schneider
                                                                                            Eddie Schneider  5 months back

                                                                                            What's weird about running away from falling buildings and dragon fire? A time to fight and a time to run--or die!

                                                                                            • Anke Jl
                                                                                              Anke Jl  5 months back

                                                                                              Why would Jon rule the 7 kingdoms minus the North? he's only ever been in the North, he's of the North

                                                                                              • justin hobbs
                                                                                                justin hobbs  5 months back

                                                                                                If bran can see the future then he warged rhegal to saved drogon