Game of Thrones Season 8 Ep 5 After Show: Who Will Kill Dany: Arya or Jon? | Theories and Thrones


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  • Eric Wang
    Eric Wang  5 months back


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      XGamingTimeX X  5 months back

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      • Mike Bordin
        Mike Bordin  5 months back

        No one kills Dany, it’s too widely expected now which D&D probably anticipated, which means it wont happen. And besides, it’s not like killing the Knight King, which destroyed his army simultaneously. You still have to deal with Drogon, Dothraki and Unsullied.

        • Sandra Coones
          Sandra Coones  5 months back

          Hey Leanne ... Riverdale writing is looking pretty good right now huh? After this ep..

          • Libby
            Libby  5 months back

            i just thought of something... what if Brienne kills Dany? Jamie asked Brienne in the bathtub scene: Jamie said "What would you have done if everyone was going to be killed, would she keep her oath then? Brienne could also be upset that Dany just killed Jamie. AND Dany is a threat to Sansa and therefore Brienne will protect Sansa. But that would make sense with story and the character development. So I'm sure it will not happen.

            • Jessie B
              Jessie B  5 months back

              A lot of people have been upset about the fact that a lot of this episode has been from Arya's perspective... but I understand why. Arya was further into the city than anyone else - therefore, she had a much better vantage point to show the devastation from the people's perspective.

              • maram miram
                maram miram  5 months back

                I think that dany won't die i wish that cuz the writer won't give you what you want to happen

                • Erick Santos
                  Erick Santos  5 months back

                  The whole Mad Queen thing, I think, was just a mix of various things. There have been clues throughout the seasons, and many this seasons. We've seen how much the Iron Throne meant to her. In season 1, when Drogo vowed to take his Khalasaar to Westeros, burn their cities, rape their women, etc. she was taken by the moment, in a good way(for her) and though she spends some times freeing slaves, she still burns slave masters for no good reason.

                  She sails to Westeros to take the Iron Throne, demanding loyalty from a stranger. She was so full of herself and then she started losing the war. She wanted to take all 3 Dragons to Kings Landing and burn it down, which she was advised against, but was her initial impulse. She lost a Dragon trying to save Jon, who she later finds out is the true heir to the Iron Throne she has dedicated her life to. Then she sees Westerosi don't like her, she loses Jorah, she loses half her soldiers, and Jon is the one getting the praise. She wants Jon to keep his secret and he doesn't, and neither does Varys. Cersei beheads her dear friend. Feels unloved and rejected by Jon. No love from him or Westeros. I think in the moment she just stopped caring about the Throne that she no longer has a claim to, and decided she has a Dragon, fuck everyone. Which is true, she single handedly defeated the Lannister Army, the Iron Fleet, the Golden Company, and burned all of Kings Landing.

                  • Stevareno
                    Stevareno  5 months back

                    Dany kills Jon for treason; arya kills dany; the throne is destroyed during the fires; Bran sets up the ruling of the north with Sansa, Tyrion, and ? to rule; Bran goes to live with the trees. Arya goes on the road as a traveling "knight" of justice.
                    How about that

                    • WOR
                      WOR  5 months back

                      Screw this..I'm voting Ghost. He's getting a little sick of Jon and his crazy white girlfriends

                      • Chris F
                        Chris F  5 months back

                        That prophecy was never on the show!

                        • Natali Vucet
                          Natali Vucet  5 months back

                          her's a fun theory. Maybe Drogon will kill her trying to protect Jon.

                          • Fennec Besixdouze
                            Fennec Besixdouze  5 months back

                            Dany didn't go mad. The "madness of the Targaryens" functions a lot like prophecy: it's sometimes self-fulfilling, but it is not perfect. It is not as simple as "oh she went mad". Prophecy for GRRM is never that easy. Just like most mass-murderers throughout history, she's not clinically mad in any way. But she is so confident in her own righteousness and power, and has no remorse or compunctions for the people she slaughters.

                            She has decided to "rule by fear", and she has decided that by slaughtering the present generation it is "mercy to the future generations". Her idea of "breaking the wheel" has evolved into something more sinester: she believes by burning so much down, by slaughtering so many people, that she will put an end to this world she hates, and that her grip on Westeros will be more powerful the more the people fear her. She believes that simply allowing them to surrender will make her reign no different and no less shaky than Cersei's or anyone else's. She also detests them, views them as worth less than dirt. Because "they haven't rebelled against Cersei", she is happy convicting them of all the crimes of Cersei. In her self-righteous eyes, all others are equally guilty.

                            She is the sort of evil that only GRRM can write: complex, conflicted, with heroic qualities and charisma, but with flaws that we've been ignoring (just like Tyrion) or allowing to slide or excusing. She's not insane or mad in any clinical sense, just precisely the kind of evil that all mass murderers throughout history have been: totally self-absorbed, absolute confidence in her own righteousness, never questioning herself. We've had the perfect contrast to these qualities in Jon Snow, who, like his adopted father Ned, always questions himself, never takes pleasure in executing his enemies, and is wise and good precisely because he is questioning and humble. The difference between Jon and Dany now is similar to the contrast that was the focus of Book I between Ned and Joffrey.

                            • Fennec Besixdouze
                              Fennec Besixdouze  5 months back

                              @28:55 Bran cannot see the future. He can only see the past. There are two subtleties here:

                              1. Because he can see all the past everywhere (or at least everywhere in Winterfell where the spirit of the Old Gods has been strong), he has such comprehensive knowledge that he can make very good--uncannily good--predictions based on that knowledge.
                              2. When he Worgs into the past, sometimes he leaves traces of the future in the past. For example Hodor. From the perspective of the past, this looks like seeing into the future, but it's actually the future that is looking into the past (and leaving some trace of itself), not the other way around.

                              • Fennec Besixdouze
                                Fennec Besixdouze  5 months back

                                @7:28 no, the Valonquar was Dany. Valonquar doesn't mean little brother it means little sibling, and Dany was the youngest child of Aerys II. She collapsed the tunnel, suffocating (and crushing) Cersei.

                                • susie scottsdale ~ support your local artist

                                  Anyone who actually thought Jamie would kill Cercie is not been paying attention. The only brother who would have the reason to kill her is Tyrion. Still bummed she wasn’t killed by Arya

                                  • susie scottsdale ~ support your local artist

                                    It was dumb Daenerys didn’t go after Cersei in the tower! Ugh 😑

                                    • Yani Callu
                                      Yani Callu  5 months back


                                      • susie scottsdale ~ support your local artist

                                        John will hop onto Drogon and execute Danny with DRACARYS!,,,, 🐉 🔥 🔥 🔥

                                        • kumar sourabh
                                          kumar sourabh  5 months back

                                          Arya kills danny!
                                          Jon made king and arya is executed!

                                          Bitter sweet!

                                          Sorry for the spoiler!

                                        • heide gonzales
                                          heide gonzales  5 months back

                                          I think Jon will
                                          Kill Danny because of her madness!

                                          • Kannan Legendz
                                            Kannan Legendz  5 months back

                                            Brown Eyes : Lord Frey
                                            Blue Eyes : Knight King
                                            Green Eyes : Darnerys Targaryen

                                            • Emma Howard
                                              Emma Howard  5 months back

                                              I think with Dani it was an impulsive decision. Add onto the family history she’s had a tendency to “not feel” take her brother and pouring the golden crown on him. (Yea he was a piece of shit) but she didn’t have any remorse or any feelings and she felt cold. And she’s done this with many other people was using her dragons power to gain power And to me she saw the red keep and knew Cersei was watchin her, and he wanting the revenge she was searching for she decided to go after her people so Cersei knows she can’t do anything for them and just watch them burn including the city itself, then I get how people are mad about how “she didn’t go out good enough” this is GoT you’re not gonna get what you want. It was the best way for her to go. Knowing nothing could save her. Her whole world literally crumbling around her not being able to escape and knowing all of her people are being burned alive. Knowing her unborn child will never experience life. And knowing she won’t get to live with the love (although it’s gross they belong with each other) of her life Jamie. You all are looking at the scene itself, not the meanings or emotions their feeling Her death was not by bricks killing her. Her entire world came crashing down on her. Literally. The one she protected, had deep struggles physically and emotionally the one she fought for 10 long years. Came crashing down on her in the lowest level. Exaaactly now she felt. At the bottom. She knew she lost everything and nothing could save her from this. Except dying in Jamie’s arms. Yet unable to give birth to a child, she lost everything and knew it. Her throne her family her children. All of it on her head

                                              • Van Hentai
                                                Van Hentai  5 months back

                                                oh people, so ignorant. Dragons in this show (and many others) = contracted demons. Aim of the evil spirits, is to destroy the world (as it is cruel and evil). When her lover and child (Drogon and Misandei) died in one episode, it turned the switch. Her beast, her shadow completly taken over the control over her. She would fly and burn EVERYTHING. Just like the Night King - because in fact she have becomed the same thing. At least for a time. Enough time, to commit all of those atrocities. Thats why selfless (like Jedi - not attached) people like Varys should be the only one to possess Dragons, the power of the kings. Because they would never be possesed by those Dragons instead. I was sure that if there will be the day she will kill Varys, it will be the day of her end. It is just Drogon now. THey deliberatly did not showed her close, since the Drogon taken over. It made it look more as there is just Drogon now.
                                                EDIT: And fuck's sake people. When did you missed something when the three-eyed raven said that HE IS NOT BRAN? Can you remember when Summer have died, torn away by the wights? Like, seriously. Since the Grey Wind, if a wirewolf dies, his owner dies too. Thats why I was worried about Arya last season (I think Nymeria is coming back in the next episode). Bran. Is. Dead. It is not Bran. It is the collective consciousness, or as you prefer, the absolute. The creation. He have no agenda, except of keeping the Creation and the Time in motion (in contrary to the Night King's agenda, and in my humble opinion, the faceless man as well). He does not feels. He does not acts. He just is. Just like the Dead JUST WAS.

                                                • Klcopela78
                                                  Klcopela78  5 months back

                                                  I think Arya is going to kill Worm. Have to take down the leaders in Dany's army.

                                                  • Virginia VMoore672 Moore
                                                    Virginia VMoore672 Moore  5 months back


                                                    • Vanessa Bridges
                                                      Vanessa Bridges  5 months back

                                                      Daenerys’s eyes are blue. Not green. And Arya, at this point, has killed many people with green eyes. I think Melisandre was just generally speaking and people have taken her words too literally.

                                                      • RieMiMi
                                                        RieMiMi  5 months back

                                                        Starbucks cup wins the Iron Throne! Anyone?

                                                        • Life with Jimmy
                                                          Life with Jimmy  5 months back

                                                          Danny wanted ceirce to see all of the carnage before she swooped in and had her fried. It was the ultimate burn against Cierce, no pun intended.😳

                                                          • farishta23
                                                            farishta23  5 months back

                                                            She has always been set up as a tragic villain...what don’t you get?

                                                            • Louis XVIII
                                                              Louis XVIII  5 months back

                                                              I thought I saw Quasimodo 😳

                                                              • TrubberDox
                                                                TrubberDox  5 months back

                                                                So Jaime and Cersei = Harley and Joker? J is H and C is J

                                                                • sid ndlovu
                                                                  sid ndlovu  5 months back

                                                                  Jon is back to castle black to become the leader of the wildings

                                                                  • Adan Eglesias
                                                                    Adan Eglesias  5 months back

                                                                    I bent my knees to my lovely Queen dany, plz burn also sansa and that dwarf

                                                                    • J-Hawks
                                                                      J-Hawks  5 months back

                                                                      She didn't go crazy, she excised a cancer, the people of kings landing :) Nicely done Dany.

                                                                      • iulian ispas
                                                                        iulian ispas  5 months back

                                                                        Got end SO8E03 wow lives.....period

                                                                        • PaulaSB12
                                                                          PaulaSB12  5 months back

                                                                          She has never been the queen for the people she headed to Kings Landing to take power that was not what the people wanted she is the wheel not breaker of the wheel

                                                                          • ryanxkeke
                                                                            ryanxkeke  5 months back

                                                                            She is not a mad Queen I think she was very sane when she did this. I am Happy for Danny she got revenge for her FAMILY. She was pushed to her limit. Tyrion has failed her multiple times. Making the deal with the masters, and then still having some sort of allegiance to his house and the people he grew up with. He should not have accepted being her hand. If you remember Margaery's grandmother told her to stop listening to Tyrion and the men around her and do what she needs to do ... but she did not and look what it got her.... 2 of her children are dead. She literally could have taken the city prior to helping John fight the night king when she met with cersi to see if she would help fight the night king... but no Tyrion advised her not to. she was betrayed by her advisers , she lost her best friend and half of her army ...Just for Sansa to try and be like little finger and plot against her.... I hope she wins the game of throne. Every great ruler has things they are not proud of. This is no worse than what the masters , cersi or the wildlings have done. Burn the city to the ground and build a new one.

                                                                            • starman714
                                                                              starman714  5 months back

                                                                              Who will kill Dany, not Arya. I think it would be overdoing her character, she has the Night King notch on her scabbard already. And who says Dany will die though everybody predicts it. Maybe she will prevail and the 7 Kingdoms will be stuck with "more of the same"

                                                                              • Amy Houghton
                                                                                Amy Houghton  5 months back

                                                                                My big question...why is that guy wearing his moms tshirt?

                                                                                • A Saint With Sin
                                                                                  A Saint With Sin  5 months back

                                                                                  8 seasons, NEVER Had any dialogue between tyrion and Ayra. Plenty with sansa.

                                                                                  • A Saint With Sin
                                                                                    A Saint With Sin  5 months back

                                                                                    When the hammer shall fall upon the dragon, a new king shall arise, and noneshall stand before him." Gendry will kill the dragon after it attacks Jon snow. And eventually win the game of thrones. Ironic, he is Cersi's and roberts son. And also slightly Targarean. His marriage to Ayra, who will be pregnant, Will unite ALL houses. If Bran wins, I will  go fucking mad.

                                                                                    • A Saint With Sin
                                                                                      A Saint With Sin  5 months back

                                                                                      @Kim Rene’ she had a dark haired child that 'died ' of fever. With Robert. What if he didn't die and was swapped for another dead baby. This is a legitimate theory.

                                                                                    • Kim Rene’
                                                                                      Kim Rene’  5 months back

                                                                                      A Saint With Sin he is not CerseiS son but he was Roberts bastard son. I forget his mother’s name.

                                                                                  • MsAirbrenda
                                                                                    MsAirbrenda  5 months back

                                                                                    After Dany and Tyrion went to Cersei to give her a chance to surrender and spare the lives of her subjects and Cersei responds by beheading Dany's closest friend/advisor Missandei, I don't know why it was such a surprise to see Dany burn the city like she said she was going to, what else was she supposed to do, geez

                                                                                    • Mike M
                                                                                      Mike M  5 months back

                                                                                      Burn a city full of innocent people because of what its ruler did? There was plenty she could do instead of that.

                                                                                  • Canon
                                                                                    Canon  5 months back

                                                                                    I feel that Daeny killed Cersei. She torched the building she was in to the point it collapsed. Were she not torching it, they would have had an escape and lived. Jaime died in the arms of the woman he loved as he hoped, but the prophecy was garbage and meant nothing in the end. Right off, Cersei had 4 children born which contradicts the 3 the witch said.

                                                                                    • freethinkingMILF
                                                                                      freethinkingMILF  5 months back

                                                                                      How are they going to kill Dani? She has the dragon & loyal way Dani is going to die.

                                                                                      • C.s.p.
                                                                                        C.s.p.  5 months back

                                                                                        they have arya stark

                                                                                    • Ric Mohri
                                                                                      Ric Mohri  5 months back

                                                                                      I also agree that the coming back of Arya too her senses was cathartic

                                                                                      • Ric Mohri
                                                                                        Ric Mohri  5 months back

                                                                                        Team Arie and team Tyrion all the way

                                                                                        • Ric Mohri
                                                                                          Ric Mohri  5 months back

                                                                                          I agree that Dany descending into madness was way too truncated. And killing innocents for few reasons

                                                                                          • Mike M
                                                                                            Mike M  5 months back

                                                                                            If its her father's madness (which Ser Barristan said came in short bouts even early in his life) then there won't be any reason for killing innocents, except that she feels like doing it.