Why did Bran become king?

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  • Published: 24 May 2019
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  • zap branigan
    zap branigan  4 hours back

    I love your videos but you have used your deep insight to craft a narrative that makes the writing look like this was what they were thinking all along, in effect making it look far better than it was. It was a lazy train wreck and they shoehorned this crap in, in the worst way possible, I doubt for even a second they gave it the careful consideration you are. You are making them seem far more capable than I believe they are through your knowledge of the world.

    • Fawn Petitt
      Fawn Petitt  15 hours back

      Everyone needs a big glass of mother nature and sit back and drink and know anyone or thing with ultimate power will eventually corrupt and destroy themselves if left to their own destiny and mother nature isn't going down without a fight
      Even if that fight is hurting her children so they hopefully learn a well needed lesson in saying that death always wins
      The battle of good and evil will continue because without light you have no shadow

      I dont always agree with the videos or comments but so enjoy the many different points of view 🖤

      • Daniel Williamson
        Daniel Williamson  1 days back

        Bran Stark becoming king in the final episode was one of the reasons why I was disappointed with the ending of Game of Thrones. Why did Bran Stark of all characters have to be king? I am beginning to believe Bran Stark is the real villain of Game of Thrones. I have considered this, it's possible in Series 8 Bran may had been manipulating everyone and manipulated events to his own ends and he may has used his knowledge of Jon Snow's true identity to his advantage and he may had manipulated Jon Snow to kill Daenerys Targaryen as part of his plot to become king. In the final season, Bran doesn't use his powers as The Three Eyed Raven and he doesn't help anyone and lot of people die in the White Walker attack on Winterfell. Jon Snow never considered that Bran Stark may had been manipulating him and that Bran used the truth about his true identity to turn him against Dany and to kill her. Then again, Jon Snow is a idiot. I am beginning to understand why Ygritte said to him "You know nothing, Jon Snow." She was calling him "idiot". In Game of Thrones, Jon Snow made a lot of bad decisions and doesn't consider the consequences of his actions. One of those bad decisions (Allowing the Wildlings to cross through The Wall) cost him his life. I think Jon killing Dany was the worst thing he did. My heart sunk when Dany died. From the moment Jon learnt the truth that he's a Targaryen, Dany's allies turned against her. She lost those close to her (Missandei, Jorah Mormont), she lost her dragons and she went mad killing innocent people in King's Landing and Jon killed her. From the moment poor Hodor died, Bran changed and he wasn't the sweet boy he was before he got crippled anymore, he had become a cold master manipulator. I am really not happy about the ending of Game of Thrones. D.B. Weiss and David Benioff really made poor decisions for the characters in the final season. Is Bran Stark the real villain? It really depends on how you see and interpret it. A person who has seen the future and knows what is going to happen in the future can be a dangerous person indeed and Bran exposing to Jon his true heritage really brought about Jon's downfall and Bran may had planned it.

        • Morris Skrzynecka
          Morris Skrzynecka  2 weeks back

          Anyone's knows where is Mira?

          • Bama Girl
            Bama Girl  2 weeks back

            Having only just discovered your channel this morning, its awesome. Thank you for your insight. PLS tell me you will be doing Witcher.

            • 54markl
              54markl  1 months back

              Because people had to watch something, anything, to avoid The Walking Dead. So they watched the Medieval Walking Dead. When it was over, they realized that they had watched something that sucked for eight years. And it wouldn’t be the first time. 😂

              • 54markl
                54markl  1 months back

                Because Benioff and Weiss suck as writers. Next.

                • papiez polak
                  papiez polak  1 months back

                  I disagree.
                  You saying "Bran did want to become the king because he came to KL" is like saying that Ned wanted to come to KL in season 1. He did not, he makes it clear he doesn't want it. Why did he came? Because he had to.


                  This theory misses the point of the ending (which is to offer people a choice and show Westeros shift from militaristic society that praises violence). The "Three Eyed Raven planned it all" takes importance from characters decisions. This is exactly what lesson he took from Hodor, to not interfere with human autonomy, this is why he actually gives Jon a choice to reveal his parentage.


                  He didn't "push" Jon into revealing the secret, it isn't what happened at all. Jon had intention to reveal the secret beforehand, when he talked to Daenerys. Then as he goes silent after telling Arya and Sansa that he is "not their brother" and looks at Bran for guidance... To which Bran replies that it's his choice to make.

                  • Terell Chapman
                    Terell Chapman  2 months back

                    At first I was ehhh about it. But think about it really think about it. He’s the best king Westeros could ask for

                    • Christian Logan
                      Christian Logan  2 months back

                      Because sToRiEs

                      • S. McGraw
                        S. McGraw  2 months back

                        More reasons to hate Bran? Ok, cool.

                        • HINDOL BHATTACHARYA
                          HINDOL BHATTACHARYA  2 months back

                          Nah, the real king is Tyrion. He is ruling the six kingdoms as hand of the king, by Tywin's wisdom (may the man eternally RIP) that makes him the true ruler. By Westerosi culture, Sansa's legitimate husband is Tyrion (Ramsay had wed without Sansa'a marriage to Tyrion being anulled- making that marriage a farce) and she has a fondness for Tyrion as well, so I guess it is not far fetched for them to have an heir in near future- King in the North.

                          A little too far fetched: After Bran's death (or deposition by some means orchestrated by Tyrion), Tyrion and Sansa's child will have the best claim to the throne. Even if Bran remains in power for long he will not have an heir, so Tyrion and Sansa's lineage will continue to have the best claim to the throne after Bran's eventual death at some point. For the moment he has set the pieces that has ensured that there are Starks in every ruling position.

                          Tywin is shedding tears of pride in heaven/hell (depending on perspective). The Lannisters have finally become the most powerful house in the Seven Kingdoms.

                          • Melissa Reiman
                            Melissa Reiman  3 months back

                            Hello Robert , I enjoy your discussions so much. I love how you broke down who started Robert's Rebellion. I don't want to give anything away but I believe your theory.

                            • Ojoy3boys Forever
                              Ojoy3boys Forever  3 months back

                              In the season one poster with Ned Stark, there is a raven on the arm of the iron throne.

                              • Georgi Georgiev
                                Georgi Georgiev  3 months back

                                Three eyed raven pulled a fast one on us and body-snatched Bran in order to rule Westeros. Much like The Man in Black snatched John Locke in Lost.

                                Besides that, if Varys and Tyrion helped Jon to gain the support as a rightful king, there would be infighting between Dany loyalists and realm armies. In that situation Cersei would have absolutely no problem stayin in power with the help of TGC.

                                • Sandra Fife
                                  Sandra Fife  3 months back

                                  During the council meeting when Tyrion is in chains he doesn't ask Bran if he wants to be King...he actually says something like "I know you don't want to be King and you don't care about power but if you are chosen will you wear the crown and rule to the best of your abilities?" Then Bran says "Why do you think I came all this way?"

                                  • JediQueer
                                    JediQueer  3 months back

                                    I mean, I'm gonna go with Bad Writing?

                                    • cableaddict
                                      cableaddict  3 months back

                                      I call BULLSHIT on the story that Gearge Martin told D&D to make Bran king:
                                      George RR Martin has not confirmed this. Even Dumb shit & Dumber shit have not claimed this. The ONLY source of this rumor (and it is only a rumor) comes from the actor who benefitted most from it, and even HE didn't hear it directly from Martin. HBO probably asked Hempstead-Wright to say this, to try and relieve some of the horrific backlash. (And it worked, to some extent.) Show me a video of george RR Martin confirming this and I'll believe it, otherwise STOP BEING SO FRICKING GULLIBLE.

                                      • plamen ivanov
                                        plamen ivanov  3 months back

                                        he will be the perfect king he is unbiased so he will judge justly he can`t procreate so there won`t be any brother`s spats for the throne when he dies and he doesn`t even need a master of whisperers

                                        • jerry garcia
                                          jerry garcia  3 months back

                                          The best ad placement i’ve ever seen: Audible ad that opens with the words ‘everyone loves a good story’ on a GOT video about Bran as king.

                                          • C Irby
                                            C Irby  3 months back

                                            My God. Why NOT Bran? I mean he’s a God! He knows everything that’s ever happened since the beginning of mankind and he is now seeing the future. He IS the perfect king. No pretenses of his abilities but would you not want your leader to be able to understand every action that led to any outcome and be able to predict what will and what won’t work if tried in the future!

                                            • rht785
                                              rht785  4 months back

                                              because lazy writing./.....

                                              • OhManHolyShit JK
                                                OhManHolyShit JK  4 months back

                                                I’m convinced that you are the only one who analysed it so well that it fits. D&d probably didn’t think much by making him king but you gave it sense in grrm style

                                                • Renee L
                                                  Renee L  4 months back

                                                  John is just a big bitch, and should have been king but nope he couldn’t just marry dannie and keep it going he had to cry lol

                                                  • The dude Abides
                                                    The dude Abides  4 months back

                                                    He can see the future. First order of business... space ship

                                                    • Jay Davis
                                                      Jay Davis  4 months back

                                                      I'd of preferred the night king winning and the arc of the story going to the surviving characters trying to turn the tides of the long night after. I'm just gonna pretend the night king split bran between his wheels...

                                                      • Hootax
                                                        Hootax  4 months back

                                                        Your thoughts abt Bran becoming King are pretty much mine. Bran became resigned that he should be the king because he's the only one who can fix Westoros at this point.

                                                        • Nemenon
                                                          Nemenon  4 months back

                                                          I wonder if the Three Eyed Raven is a collective consciousness of all those who had taken that mantle in the past, or simply an ancient Child of the Forest/Old God that has warged into the mind of a human in an attempt to infiltrate their people, to finally end the war that started long long ago. With the Three Eyed Raven as king I think it is pretty safe to assume he will be able to protect his position very well, quite similarly to how Brynden Rivers did before mantling the Raven himself. He put a stop to threats to the throne before they really even began, killing them in their crib essentially.


                                                          Perhaps with that he plans on going against what the council wanted, and intends on instilling a new Three Eyed Raven (or simply assuming a new host, which I believe is going on) each time he would reach the end of his lifespan, so that he can rule forever. It wouldn't be difficult for him to continue manipulating events so that this happens again and again. I mean, he could even groom another Greenseer into power, and make it so that person is the ideal candidate to succeed Bran, thus giving him his new host while being able to give the council the illusion of choice.

                                                          • Gigi Pretty
                                                            Gigi Pretty  4 months back

                                                            After this review, it’s laid out in detail, everything wrong with this episode and by extension, season 8.

                                                            • Sam K
                                                              Sam K  4 months back

                                                              So the question then becomes whether things COULD have been different. Maybe from the TER's perspective, everyone else's choices were fixed, effectively made already, but could he have led events down a different path?

                                                              • Qizhou Duan
                                                                Qizhou Duan  4 months back

                                                                still think jon snow would be a better king - why the raven did not choose jon snow

                                                                • Maha Hamdi
                                                                  Maha Hamdi  4 months back

                                                                  the way he was chosen to be a king was laughable
                                                                  george told them he will end up as a king so they forced the story to this direction
                                                                  and even after they made him a king
                                                                  he still doesn't give a shit like Robert
                                                                  he was like : oh I'm supposed to care about where you spend the money I'm gonna play dragon simulator

                                                                  • Nick Brough
                                                                    Nick Brough  4 months back

                                                                    Given that this is - presumably - how GRRM intends to end the books, is it a worthwhile ending to the entire story ? I'm not yet convinced.

                                                                    • Nick Brough
                                                                      Nick Brough  4 months back

                                                                      worse, I think the Bran reign would be messy politically as he wont be able to create the necessary loyalty amongst the rulers of the individual kingdoms and ultimately reignite into a new war at the point of his death.

                                                                  • Matthew Housham
                                                                    Matthew Housham  4 months back

                                                                    Well, this is sinister!

                                                                    • The viral Vloggers
                                                                      The viral Vloggers  4 months back

                                                                      Robert this was a great video however you have missed out a few reasons why Bran HAD to become the king and why he was chosen to be the 3 eyed raven. Firstly he is Brandon Stark the 2ND therefore was the child who was to take the place of the son born to Brandon Stark the 1ST ( the Nights King & his ICE WHITE Queen ) who should have been sacrificed to the Night King ( the others ) just one reason why the Night King was after Bran, and why he had to be the 3 eyed raven; Bran had to be king in order to save Jon from loosing his head; and my other theory why he has to be king is so he can find Drogon bring him back to Kings Landing keep him in the dragon pit but will have the power to control him he can warg into him so as to take him out of the pit to prevent him from ending up the size of a dog and because dragons do not know the difference between a child and livestock Bran will stop Drogon from killing children. Just a few reasons why I believe Bran was always going to become King. Many thanks again Robert for a great video.

                                                                      • interzone 84
                                                                        interzone 84  4 months back

                                                                        Please read THE VORRH by B Catling I, I think you may be as blown away as i was. loving the work fella

                                                                        • Eoraptor1
                                                                          Eoraptor1  4 months back

                                                                          Bran Atreides, God Emperor of Westeros. Dune-Heads will understand. The Seven Kingdoms are on the Golden Path. They'll be taught a lesson they'll feel in their bones.


                                                                          JAMES

                                                                          • Phillip cavemn
                                                                            Phillip cavemn  4 months back

                                                                            Ok so why TF did the iron islands stay in the union

                                                                          • Phillip cavemn
                                                                            Phillip cavemn  4 months back

                                                                            How was Jon too contraversal everyone except grey wurm loved him and as far as I can tell he's the khal of the dathraki

                                                                            • Tun Huang
                                                                              Tun Huang  4 months back

                                                                              It's possible that Bran / the Three-Eyed-Raven did the right/good thing for the mankind. Daenerys has already shown tendency towards tyranny and gruelty without being manipulated by the Three-Eyed-Raven. So if she only burned part of King's Landing and Jon stayed by her side, she would keep on waging wars, burning more and more cities, killing much more people at the end and establishing a fearsome dynasty based on dragon fire / fire and blood magic. So the massacre of King's Landing Bran somehow made happened might be the lesser evil.

                                                                              • Anonymous Doe
                                                                                Anonymous Doe  4 months back

                                                                                Hail! King Robert of Deep Geek! Long may he reign

                                                                                • Joshua mowdy
                                                                                  Joshua mowdy  4 months back

                                                                                  Hello.

                                                                                  In Deep Geek. Here is a fanciful notion. None the less quite a notion. Now then.
                                                                                  Knowing ho door was imprinted on and he was then marked with the curse of ho door until the moment when he did (ho the door). What if we were to know that Daneryias to was imprinted upon to BREAK the wheel. To break the wheel of bran the broken.. are we to believe that this is inconsiquential In Deep Geek? Hmm. There is more to this plot. Has Brans wheel been Broken? The wheel on the Targaryian designed chair Bran enjoys so much?.


                                                                                  Good luck.

                                                                                  • Wolverine X
                                                                                    Wolverine X  4 months back

                                                                                    I hope the books go further than the show. And the night kind is still connected to bran after he is king and stuff happens.

                                                                                    • Back1lastime
                                                                                      Back1lastime  4 months back

                                                                                      Fan Theory - Brynden Rivers aka the former 3 eyed Raven aka the Blood Raven, warged into Bran.

                                                                                      • Black Girl Magic
                                                                                        Black Girl Magic  4 months back

                                                                                        Cersei did say to Ned Stark “When you play the Game Of Thrones you win or you die. There is no middle ground,” and she was absolutely right. Everyone who played and didn’t end up with the throne, died. Cersei, Joffrey, Tommen, Stannis, Renly, Dany, even Rob as he fought to be King In the North. Jon wasn’t playing. He was never playing, as he didn’t want it and would never have accepted it. Bran was, we just didn’t know it 🤷🏾‍♀️ and he won.

                                                                                        • venus tusk
                                                                                          venus tusk  4 months back

                                                                                          this is an intersting take on why bran became king .lots of undeniable connections . and this has real live proof of why the three eye raven or third eye raven became king !!! https://youtu.be/T6qm2LOw63I

                                                                                          • julia s. ferdinand
                                                                                            julia s. ferdinand  4 months back

                                                                                            here is something interesting though... Sansa tells Tyrion because she wants Jon
                                                                                            to become king... 'someone better' is Jon.

                                                                                            • Nicholas Spevak
                                                                                              Nicholas Spevak  4 months back

                                                                                              Is it possible that when the 3 eyed raven transferred his power to Bran in the cave, that he really transferred his conciousness into Brans body? Meaning that technically the Blood raven is now ruling the throne?