Game Of Thrones Season 8 Episode 5 Is PROOF D&D Are The WORST WRITERS In History


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  • Mark Esteves ( Student )

    Death by fire? Wouldn’t that be a death by gravity

    • Richard Urbanec
      Richard Urbanec  2 weeks back

      That last season of GOT is so terrible I feel urges to dislike every rant video about it due to how much it triggers me.

      • Carson Fijal
        Carson Fijal  2 weeks back

        Euron dresses like a magician too.

        • Patrick Oliver
          Patrick Oliver  2 weeks back

          A lot saw this coming with the character assassination of Stannis back in s5 it was a steady downward spiral

          • TheNight'sDouche
            TheNight'sDouche  3 weeks back

            How are you gonna hate Danny? A character with righteous intentions but got screwed but like a conniving cunt like sansa?

            • DarkusMaster
              DarkusMaster  3 weeks back

              Still better than Rian Johnson.

              • Ruth Sheridan
                Ruth Sheridan  3 weeks back

                Ok. There were only HALF of the episodes in season 8 and no dialog.Instead ,we were satiated with looks , very long and spaced out looks by the actors not supported by the dialogue.because the writers didn't write any. Prettylazy and totally selfish,if it wasn't for thier fans OF GOT, They wouldn't even have another project to work on! they rushed and ruined a great show and disappointed millionsfor thier own selfish reasons and IAM NEVER going to watch ANYTHING written by them again !SHAME ,SHAME!!!!

                • jeffrey spinner
                  jeffrey spinner  4 weeks back

                  Dumb and Dumber screwed the pooch so hard, not only will Disney not give them the SW trilogy in 2022... Not only will there never be residuals forever for all the actors and actresses, but the shit halo is so severe, all movies using GOT actors/tresses will fail.

                  Glorious, ONLY because almost all the GOT personnel had no problem lying to us that the series was good; not ended in a way so bad, it will only be remembered forever as the worst butt fking of an audience in recorded history.

                  Not a penny for any IP associated with dumb and dumber or any actress in GOT. A couple of the actors did try to give us a heads up. "Disappointing," doesn't even come close.

                  • John Doe
                    John Doe  4 weeks back

                    D and D both deserve a punch in the face for insulting everyone who watched this show. Fuckers just wanted to rush the ending so they can make more money on star wars

                    • Bathory Synystra
                      Bathory Synystra  1 months back

                      If you don't like Dany, I don't like you. Fuck off.

                    • Chi Cetin
                      Chi Cetin  1 months back

                      10 yeas to watch the evil queen cersi die by bricks 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️ fml.

                      • LittleFinger
                        LittleFinger  1 months back

                        So satisfying when someone is angry for you

                      • cagdas güven
                        cagdas güven  2 months back

                        10k times of preejulation vs GoT se8... The question is what is the number to multpy first one enough to reach DnD failure :-\

                        • Zanna Brooks
                          Zanna Brooks  2 months back

                          Your video is very confusing for the few of us that have not yet seen season 8. We can't stream where I live, sadly. I have the Blu-ray on pre-order. Amazon. Want to see it and be horrified of their horrendous lack of writing ability. So sad that even the actors hate the ending.

                          • Something Something Something

                            Order of the Greenhand didn't come up with anything.

                            • Popistan Iuliu
                              Popistan Iuliu  2 months back

                              Can anyone remind me when has Daenerys ever kept prisoners ? Ever.
                              Why does she keep Jaime as a prisoner ? - Because she tests Tyrions loyalty to her vs. the loyalty to his family. And Tyrion fails, fails because he owed Jaime.
                              She imprisons Jaime also because Tyrion advised her in S07E05: "nothing scrubs bold notions from a man's head than a few weeks in a dark cell". Ironically, she applies this to Jaime Lannister (who's bold notions needed scrubbing) and wouldn't you know it...she applies it to Tyrion as well in the next episode. The same advice.
                              But Tyrion should have known that Dany never keeps prisoners, she did it this time to test him. Had he known that, he would have realized that Jamie was not in trouble and there was no danger to save Jaime from. But Tyrion was an idiot this season so none of the above are applicable.

                              • Donovan
                                Donovan  2 months back

                                *Corporate Social Engineering* has been successful in convincing some "Fans/Customers" that Season 8 was a logically written story and those who disagree are idiots. Mind controlled *Sheep* , convinced they are independent thinking *Wolves* , by design to protect corporate interest.

                                • marc smouha
                                  marc smouha  2 months back

                                  The real problem with this crappy ending:

                                  • Alex Behzade
                                    Alex Behzade  2 months back

                                    Fuck both of them. They are the worst writers in all of Hollywood.

                                    • Herbert Quain
                                      Herbert Quain  2 months back

                                      I wonder sometimes if people have actually read all 5 books.... I'll grant you the first 3 are imaginative and entertaining, but the last 2 are practically unreadable, and there's not a paragraph in any of them that could be confused with great writing. The sex scenes in particular are just embarrassing, and there are long stretches where you truly don't know what the heck's going on and you don't even care. Given their source material, D&D deserve a ton of credit (maybe not as much as the cast and production team, those people made the show what it was, but still). Every diversion D&D made from the books was an improvement, and it's not their fault the author has ground to a halt trying to stretch a story he could have told in 5 if not 4 books into 7 for no good reason. There were a lot of things I wish they'd done differently in season 8, but the show was never very close to perfect (the episode where Cersie nuked the Sept is pretty dang close, but not many others are that vicinity). Chill out, quit hating, go read some Joyce and Beckett...get a life.

                                      • Shivani
                                        Shivani  3 months back

                                        However awful Season 8 was at least we got some of the funniest memes out of it.

                                        • zanzed cloud
                                          zanzed cloud  3 months back

                                          dont question super sayen euron

                                          • Black Gazebo
                                            Black Gazebo  3 months back

                                            It will be hilarious when grrm finishes the books properly and completely different to season 8 of GoT, and then this season will just be forgotten for the tripe that it is.

                                            • Demon
                                              Demon  2 months back

                                              When? That's if he doesn't die of a heart attack first before he finishes the books.

                                          • Yumiko Youku
                                            Yumiko Youku  3 months back

                                            6.58 and there I totally lost it. xD

                                            • Stinky Monkey
                                              Stinky Monkey  3 months back

                                              Tyron Lannister is a dumb fuck to

                                              • Trevor Winn
                                                Trevor Winn  3 months back

                                                Dumb and dumber told us why she burned kings landing " she decided to make it personal " lol

                                                • Corinne Young
                                                  Corinne Young  3 months back

                                                  so painful !

                                                  • Heavenlyevl 1
                                                    Heavenlyevl 1  3 months back

                                           to nominate the worst writers for the recognition they deserve?

                                                    • ArcaneTuber
                                                      ArcaneTuber  3 months back

                                                      The audience remembers...

                                                      • Danny Ford
                                                        Danny Ford  3 months back

                                                        I’ve not rewatched any of season 8 it broke my heart 💔 season 7 can be forgiven (maybe) but fuck u season 8 an if I missed it what happened the the beautiful sand woman that was captured by euron ? I think I missed it but can’t subject myself to watch it again 🖕🏽fuck dumb an dumber

                                                        • Danny Ford
                                                          Danny Ford  2 months back

                                                          Yeah they did lol 😂 that’ was fucking awesome brother one love 🌍😂👍🏽🖕🏽🇺🇸🇬🇧

                                                        • Demon
                                                          Demon  2 months back

                                                          They got killed by Cersei.

                                                      • Yerbol Khassen
                                                        Yerbol Khassen  3 months back

                                                        Absolutely agree with an every single word!

                                                        • Wayfaring Man
                                                          Wayfaring Man  3 months back

                                                          I stopped caring about the show after season 4. Everything went downhill except for the all-around inane stupidity, which skyrocketed.

                                                          • chasm671
                                                            chasm671  3 months back

                                                            Nobody cares about Arya, Benioff, you stupid fuck, because you butchered her character and made her an infuriatingly smug little shit with invincible plot armor who steals and ruins other people's plotlines. OK, maybe *you* like her because you're also an infuriatingly smug, plot-stealing-and-ruining little shit as well, but nobody with a brain can stand the unrelatable psychobrat you turned Arya into.

                                                            • Gitta Sapiano
                                                              Gitta Sapiano  3 months back

                                                              I couldn’t have said it better!!!

                                                              • Gitta Sapiano
                                                                Gitta Sapiano  3 months back

                                                                You have hit every issue perfectly!!!!!!!!!

                                                                • karlis krisbergs
                                                                  karlis krisbergs  3 months back

                                                                  Ive never understood disney.. they have this amazing property which they invested hundreds of millions into called Star Wars and what do they do with this brand which has endless potential for great story telling and entertainment? well first off they give it off to EA of all companies to do with it as they like in the video game market and now they hand it off to D&D for movies.. I really dont fucking get it, are they actively trying to get the fans of the biggest franchise in history to hate them?

                                                                  • GB vKS
                                                                    GB vKS  3 months back

                                                                    @Pauly Pipes i am pretty sure Walt would've(literally) kicked Rian Johnson after reading the script of the last jedi

                                                                  • Pauly Pipes
                                                                    Pauly Pipes  3 months back

                                                                    Seriously man it frustrates me alot too. Old disney wasn't like this. Walt Disney wouldnt allow this bullshit. Fuck Disney MD fuck EA. I haven't played a good starwars game since KOTOR ND the force Unleashed

                                                                • dandycliff2
                                                                  dandycliff2  3 months back

                                                                  Emilia Clarke's acting good? WTF? She's awful and cringy. So is Kit Harrington

                                                                  • Skirky McGuirke
                                                                    Skirky McGuirke  4 months back

                                                                    Just a heads up: the name Cian is pronounced Kee-ahn.

                                                                    • Antonio Meraz
                                                                      Antonio Meraz  4 months back

                                                                      Your sound mix it’s a mess. The video it’s unwatchable, unfortunately.

                                                                      • Talen White
                                                                        Talen White  4 months back

                                                                        David is dumb dan is Dumber

                                                                        • Maciej Godzisz
                                                                          Maciej Godzisz  4 months back

                                                                          Sorry but anyone who states that Tyrion and Varys are friends hasn't been paying attention or is just plain blind. Varys has NO friends, he is too smart for that, he's cunning, calculating and objective. He respects Tyrion's intellect and sees him as equal. Same goes for Tyrion, he knows Varys is smart but also dangerous. "Keep Your friends close and Your enemies closer".They both understand each other and respect each other. That's why they have so many great scenes together. Their witty exchanges in early seasons prove that. But that nowhere in hell means that they are friends. Varys helped free Tyrion because Jamie forced him to. Varys didn't even travel east with Tyrion after that.Their less witty exchanges in later seasons only prove the writer's incompetence and the butchering of Tyrion's and Varys' characters. It's like saying that Varys and Littlefinger are friends ....

                                                                          • Be Edward
                                                                            Be Edward  4 months back

                                                                            Why dont you just shut your mouth....

                                                                            • dvega1
                                                                              dvega1  4 months back

                                                                              Its not "Clan" Gaffeny, its Cian (pronounced "Keane") Gaffeny

                                                                              • Darkfireice
                                                                                Darkfireice  4 months back

                                                                                Damn it now I just want to play pokemon

                                                                                • Conscious Being
                                                                                  Conscious Being  4 months back

                                                                                  Daenerys had _always_ been a psychopath/sociopath and the show writers never left any smart viewers in doubt about it.

                                                                                  Her decision to murder Khal Drogo was the first _conclusive_ evidence for the viewers about her psychopathic/sociopathic nature. The characters in the show were, however, not privy to that information, since she murdered him without witnesses.

                                                                                  But even the characters in the show were revealed her psychopathic/sociopathic nature, when she burnt the Khals alive and returned to Meereen with an army of indiscriminate murderers of non-combatants, including children, and rapists. She was _not_ forced to lead them, she _chose_ to lead them, by burning their Khals alive. She didn't _have_ to burn the Khals, because she had rescue available and she was treated with respect from the moment they came to know she was Khal Drogo's widow i.e. it was not a case of vengeance.

                                                                                  After that event, anyone who continued to root for her was either completely retarded or a psychopath/sociopath themselves.

                                                                                  Daenerys's "concern" for ordinary people? What did they think would happen to the Dothraki women and children once all their men and horses are gone? With no means of survival or defence, they would either starve to death or be enslaved by others. Fine fate to subject them to by the "breaker of chains" "concerned about ordinary people".

                                                                                  Mind you, this was all faithfully adapted from the books. That means, GRRM himself created Daenerys as a Machiavellian psychopath/sociopath.

                                                                                  After that event, smart characters like Varys and Tyrion could not have been blind to her evil nature or stupid enough to believe that she wanted to build a better a world. She was going to invade Westeros with or without them anyway and she will succeed in taking the Iron Throne with or without their help. Their only choice was to stay by her side and _contain_ her or arrange to defeat her if they could.

                                                                                  Tyrion chooses to manipulate her using her need to be loved by the people she rules. When he suggests they take King's Landing using Westerosi forces, she readily agrees because she knows she is _not_ going to win anybody's love if she does that using the dragons and the Dothraki. After the first attempt to sign up Dorne and Reach on her side ends up in disaster for those two, Jon's arrival at Dragonstone presents another opportunity.

                                                                                  What appears to be a harebrained plan by Tyrion, to capture an undead specimen to convince Cersei to join the fight against the undead, could very well be an extremely clever plan to convince Daenerys to delay the taking of King's Landing. Of course, Cersei wouldn't be stupid enough to buy the _scale_ of the threat the undead posed by showing a specimen, but he could convince her to _lie_ about it, which is the only thing that could have happened when he talked to her privately later. If Cersei didn't lie about joining the fight against the undead, Daenerys would immediately launch an attack on King's Landing and Cersei is certain to lose. By lying, Cersei stands a better chance of surviving an attack by depleted forces of Daenerys. Once Daenerys is committed to defending the North from the undead and Jon to fight for Daenerys, Tyrion could reveal the simplest plan to defeat the threat of the undead: seal the bloody tunnel. But what Tyrion couldn't foresee was the dragon donation to the Night King. After that, closing the tunnel won't stop the undead, because they have the means to breach the wall.

                                                                                  Even putting the non-combatants in the crypts was not a bad plan. When they could transport an undead specimen in a _wooden_ crate without it breaking out, why would they expect stone and mortar can't hold them inside even if they are raised by the Night King? Sending the Dothraki to charge and placing the Unsullied outside the walls is the perfect plan if the idea were to deplete as much of Daenerys's troops as was possible before she invades King's Landing. It would also be consistent with Tyrion not responding when Bran claims the Night King is coming for _him_ , Bran. If Bran and not everyone living is the Night King's target, why would they keep Bran at Winterfell and put the lives of everyone else, including non-combatants, at risk? Why not shift him, by air, to one of the now empty, Northern castles? A few defenders could accompany him by air and if the Night King's army turn around and head to Bran's location, they can chase them. If the Night King flies to Bran's location, the defenders meet him alone or with just a few of his White Walkers/undead he could carry, on his own dragon. Why wouldn't a clever man like Tyrion think of _that_ ? Would he reveal it, if he thought of it? Not sure. If the battle against the undead ends without much loss for Daenerys's forces, she will still remain a huge threat to Westeros. It was that threat a clever Tyrion would have been worried about, not Night King or Cersei.

                                                                                  Tyrion couldn't have betrayed Varys to Daenerys, but _given him up_ according to a plan both of them agreed upon earlier, so that he, Tyrion, could continue to enjoy Daenerys's confidence, should Daenerys get wind of Varys's activity. Tyrion reveals to Varys before he is burnt that it was he, Tyrion, who gave him up, to assure Varys that it wasn't Jon and to appear to Daenerys that he, Tyrion, wasn't party to Varys's plan.

                                                                                  Tyrion remains clever throughout the series. Except that, you need to be extremely clever to realise that.

                                                                                  As for how D&D did complete justice to Varys's and Daenerys's characters (Daenerys _planned_ to start the massacre after King's Landing surrendered. This was conclusively demonstrated in Episode 5 and her motivation for it hinted at), as responses to this post.

                                                                                  • Conscious Being
                                                                                    Conscious Being  4 months back

                                                                                    Daenerys planning to massacre King's Landing is clearly demonstrated when she tells Greyworm he will know when to _attack_ , _after_ Tyrion tells her the bells will ring to indicate the city's surrender.

                                                                                    To _ensure_ the city surrenders, she tells Tyrion about Jaime and warns him not to _fail_ her again. She _wanted_ Tyrion to release Jaime on the condition that he would try everything to get the city to surrender. Tyrion's last failure was to get the city to surrender. There was absolutely no other reason for her to tell Tyrion that Jaime was her prisoner. If she were testing Tyrion's loyalty, she would have had another batch of Unsullied with explicit orders to arrest Tyrion _and_ Jaime should Tyrion release Jaime. Not to mention that she had absolutely no reason to doubt Tyrion's loyalty when just a few hours before he betrayed his best friend Varys and implicated himself, when she didn't even suspect either.

                                                                                    As to _why_ she would do that, the answer is hinted at in her conversation with Jon. She says that she has no love in Westeros, only fear. When Jon tells her he loves her, she tries to seduce him and fails, she declares "Let it be fear". What fear was she referring to? No Westerosi seem to fear her, not even when she is about to burn them, like the Tarlies and Varys. Tyrion claims the people of King's Landing support Cersei out of fear, yet they won't even bother to try to escape the city out of fear of Daenerys. But there is one fear she could sense in Tyrion and Varys: fear _for_ the people. That is, while the Westerosi people don't fear her and Lords don't fear her for their own lives, some of the Lords, those that care for the people, fear her for what she might do to the people. It is _that_ fear she intends to instill, by massacring the people of King's Landing after the city surrenders. Let the Lords and Ladies know that it is not just their lives that are at risk should they choose to cross Daenerys, but the lives of _all_ their people as well and this will happen even if they surrender once the fighting begins. That should send chills down their spines.

                                                                                    But the message would be totally lost, if she started the massacre before the city surrendered. For the message to be loud and clear, she needed the city to surrender and the massacre to start after.

                                                                                    Yes, she had a perfectly valid reason, valid but only for a psychopath/sociopath, to massacre people of the city after it surrendered.

                                                                                  • Conscious Being
                                                                                    Conscious Being  4 months back

                                                                                    Varys's actions are completely consistent with his character. Once he realised Daenerys was evil (after her return to Meereen with the Dothraki army), his sole concern could only have been to save Westeros from Daenerys. Quitting Daenerys's employ won't help his goal any. Staying and undermining her would. If Varys were looking for self-preservation, he wouldn't have joined Daenerys in the first place after she promised to burn him if he betrayed her.

                                                                                    So what was Varys planning? Varys was speeding the truth about Jon's birth to all the Lords and Ladies of Westeros. He was writing many such letters, not just one. But why does he need to be at Dragonstone to do that? He doesn't. But there is another thing that he was planning, that requires him to be at Dragonstone: poisoning the dragon(s).

                                                                                    Varys realised that as long as Daenerys had the dragons, few in Westeros will cross her. But if he can successfully kill the dragons by poisoning them _and_ the Westerosi Lords and Ladies knew about Jon's right to the throne, he could expect many of them to choose Jon over Daenerys. When he spoke to Jon at Dragonstone, he wasn't expecting Jon to be convinced. He was conveying to Jon that Jon's right to the throne is now widely known and should he ever feel the need to stake the claim, he will have wide support in Westeros.

                                                                                    When one of his little birds tells him "She is not eating", the reference was to the dragon, not Daenerys. After the death of Viserion north of the wall, we were told the dragons were not eating at Winterfell in Episode 1 of Season 8. That is, dragons mourn the death of a sibling by refusing food. Drogon was not eating because Rhegal died. Since dragons are hermaphrodites, referring to one as a she is as valid as a he.

                                                                                    It was also important for Varys to stay by Daenerys for one more important reason. Should Daenerys come to know of someone spreading the truth of Jon's heritage (if one of the recipients of the information, like Yara or Gendry sounding off Daenerys about it) and Varys is not around, Daenerys would blame Jon or Tyrion and proceed to execute him. Varys being around sacrificing himself was better for his plans to succeed than for him to save his skin. That is the pact he worked out with Tyrion on the way to Dragonstone, that Tyrion would give up Varys, if and when necessary, to retain Daenerys's trust. Tyrion confessing to Varys before his execution was him saying that it was _not_ Jon who betrayed Varys (a horrible suspicion to have before death, that the person who he pinned his hopes on and sacrificing his life for is not worth the trust).

                                                                                • Poor Finian
                                                                                  Poor Finian  4 months back

                                                                                  Yeah, the ending sucked (I actually hated season 7 more, but that's a different debate).... HOWEVER, saying that D&D are the worst writers in history is just a childish, idiotic statement simply because there's an obvious flaw to that logic... Presumably, you didn't start viewing the show in season eight, so that means you watched eight seasons of a show overseen and largely written by the WORST WRITERS IN HISTORY! How does that work? Were you forced by gunpoint to watch the previous seven seasons? Surely you didn't enjoy all those episodes written by the worst writers in history? What kept you coming back, year after year? Blind devotion to HBO? A fanatic obsession with Emilia Clarke? Look, I agree that D&D made some bad decisions regarding the last two seasons of GoT, but calling them the worst writers in history is just nonsense because the HUGE popularity of the show directly contradicts that notion.

                                                                                  • Herbert Quain
                                                                                    Herbert Quain  2 months back

                                                                                    @Demon You can be a bad writer and still write entertaining books, and the first 3 GOT books were definitely entertaining. The last 2 though...too often I found myself not knowing what was going on and not caring. And again, the sex in particular throughout the whole series was just embarrassing. I'm not so much a Martin hater though as a D&D defender. Having read the books, my opinion is the show they created (with all it's flaws, and there were many) was much better than its source material.

                                                                                  • Demon
                                                                                    Demon  2 months back

                                                                                    Herbert Quain If he's a bad writer, then why is he known for good writing then? Although your sheepish opinion doesn't really matter.

                                                                                  • Herbert Quain
                                                                                    Herbert Quain  2 months back

                                                                                    Totally agree, although on the point of coming back for more, I read all 5 GOT books despite thinking Martin is pretty bad writer.... He has a great imagination, at least enough of one to sustain the first 3 books, but beyond that...pretty lame (and in the case of the sex scenes, downright embarrassing. An incel could have done better). Really, the show was often puerile and mediocre throughout it's whole run, but it was elevated by the quality of the actors and the production value. And it definitely elevated its source material...just about all of the departures that it made from the books were improvements, imo. D&D deserve a ton of credit, people need to chill.

                                                                                • Tomato
                                                                                  Tomato  4 months back

                                                                                  People aren't angry with the outcome just how we got there

                                                                                  • Hao Jeng
                                                                                    Hao Jeng  4 months back

                                                                                    I agree with just about everything you say, Daenerys's character was ruined this season without a doubt, but everything that came before made her quite a likable character. Varys did indeed betrayed her. The scene with the child, varys asked if Daenery has eaten, and when the child says no, he said they'll try again at supper. This is a pretty clear indication that he tried to poison the queen with her meals, which she only managed to evade because she was so overwhelmed with grief. Everything Daenerys did after burning King's Landing was wrong, she became a irredeemable character afterwards, but many characters' decisions that seems to brought about this face-heel turn felt unearned. Jon's almost-dumb level of honesty in revealing his heritage to his sisters were in line with his stark character, but all of the subsequent results (Sansa's immediate betrayal, her general dislike for Daenerys, Tyrion immediately telling Varys, and Varys immediately believing that Daenerys will become a tyrant) felt so artificial, and solely written to turn Daenerys into the "bad guys". Shame on D&D.