Another Game of Thrones Prequel and No Winds of Winter | Based on GRRM's Worst Book

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  • R. Blakehole
    R. Blakehole  2 days back

    I'm willing to bet that George R.R. Martin does not know how to end his Ice and Fire series. I have seen this a lot where some author or show runner creates an increasingly complex narrative web with a constantly expanding expectation of a grand ending from the consuming fans. The problem is, how does anyone fulfill a nearly infinite fan expectation?

    • john love
      john love  3 days back

      did he just say that he doesn't think the last 2 books of a song of ice and fire are popular? you're beginning to sound pretty stupid

      • Karl Slicher
        Karl Slicher  6 days back

        The vast majority will always only know of the trash TV version so why would a rich man waste any more of his very limited remaining lifespan trying to please a dwindling few who will never change that reality.

        • joseph grey
          joseph grey  1 weeks back

          They cant make more shows, they ruined the main event for me, im never coming back...

          • joseph grey
            joseph grey  1 weeks back

            All martin has to do is sit there and dream up the overall plot that he want to see, and the rest can be done by hack writers, he doesnt have to sit there and dream up every detail, just come up with a really compelling narrative and let other people fill in the blanks...

            • Hayden Crooks
              Hayden Crooks  1 weeks back

              GOT is dead, season 8 just killed it.
              Jon Snow heritage was just forgotten and nothing of it when he should have been torched by a dragon to show the world he should be the one true king...
              Absolutely brilliant TV series that ended in the toilet

              • Alberto G
                Alberto G  2 weeks back

                GRRM is a hippie and a nihilist and he is mad because people want him to finish wow im pretty sure he will never publish wow ...

                • Shipper Trash
                  Shipper Trash  2 weeks back

                  Before S8, I was super excited for the prequels, even thought I knew they'd never be as good as GoT. Now I couldn't care less, not even going to watch any of them. That's how detached I have become from this story that has consumed my life for 5 years

                  • MrDorilean
                    MrDorilean  2 weeks back

                    Who the fuck cares about the origin of the White walkers now with that ending?...

                    • Iris Lamb
                      Iris Lamb  2 weeks back

                      The other prequel “Blood Moon”, is going to be woke trash. It’s supposed to take place in Westeros in the north 10,000 years before GoT. The producers and writers shoe horned black actors into roles, then later realized that there are no black people in the north, so instead of making the people from the summer isles or Essos, they are going to make them black because they are cursed. Like really? You just made your show accidentally racist trying to be woke without actually reading the source material, good job HBO.

                      • Red Rackham
                        Red Rackham  2 weeks back

                        The sad thing is this: if Martin doesn't finish the series, the HBO ending will be the only one there will be. As it is, it's not really Martin's series anymore: he is writing the book adaptation of the television series now, rather than the other way around.

                        • Goat Man
                          Goat Man  3 weeks back

                          I actually liked the prequel short stories "the knight of the seven kingdoms", its refreshing seeing Plantos from a poor person perspective.
                          I don't think you understand what prequel means, the tales of Dunk and Egg are the original prequel.

                          • kevin hopkins
                            kevin hopkins  3 weeks back

                            George has had his day..joe abercrombie is the new king of grim dark.. 'sometimes you've just gotta be realistic about these things' - Logan 9 fingers

                            • Wade Games
                              Wade Games  3 weeks back

                              Love to see Dunk and Egg , if they could get committed show runners that wouldn’t leave for Disney

                              • Iris Lamb
                                Iris Lamb  2 weeks back

                                Wade Games GRRM already said Dunk and Egg and Roberts Rebellion are off the table for prequels

                            • Wade Games
                              Wade Games  3 weeks back

                              Fire and blood audible was ok voice actor sold it to me atleast

                              • S/V Argyle
                                S/V Argyle  3 weeks back

                                This will bury HBO.

                                • Nicky B
                                  Nicky B  3 weeks back

                                  April 2019. The month that ruined GoT forever. The month that took a good two weeks out of my life trying to cope with the fuck up that was series 8. 4 months later I though I was over it, coming back to this site to find out prequels are in the making, old fattie still hasn't finished the book that noone wants to read anymore. Sorry I am leaving. This time for good. Noone ever mention GoT to me again. I am so done and still angry.

                                  • Justin Last
                                    Justin Last  4 weeks back

                                    Game of Thrones lost me when they took a little girl that we had all watched grow up and gave her a nude sex scene. Sorry HBO, but the majority of your fanbase is not into "daddy daughter" shit.

                                    • KaylenYTG
                                      KaylenYTG  4 weeks back

                                      westworld season 2 was good. it wasn't bad

                                      • undead9999
                                        undead9999  4 weeks back

                                        valar morghulis, especially HBO execs and D&D

                                        • Broken Dreamz
                                          Broken Dreamz  4 weeks back

                                          I would watch a Dunc and Egg show, really enjoyed the book. Surely it would be a cheaper show to create also? Since there are no dragons or massive battles.
                                          Just seems like Martin is scared to finish the main story now it has been sacrificed on the alter of Dumb and Dumbers careers. But that won't stop him milking the franchise as much as possible.

                                          • Hatachi
                                            Hatachi  4 weeks back

                                            I find it kinda weird that you defend the last two ASOIAF books. They're terribly written. Unless you just really have a thing for turtles.
                                            "Tyrion had glimpsed a dozen different sorts: large turtles and small ones, flatbacks and red-ears, softshells and bonesnappers, brown turtles, green turtles, black turtles, clawed turtles and horned turtles, turtles whose ridged and patterned shells were covered with whorls of gold and jade and cream. Some were so large they could have borne a man upon their backs. Yandry swore the Rhoynar princes used to ride them across the river. He and his wife were Greenblood born, a pair of Dornish orphans come home to Mother Rhoyne."
                                            Oh, and I guess if you really wanna find out where whores go.

                                            • Not Todd Howard
                                              Not Todd Howard  4 weeks back

                                              He's also writing for a Dark Souls clone called Elden Ring. He's out there doing literally anything but writing Winds of Winter.

                                              • shenron
                                                shenron  4 weeks back

                                                imagine comparing Fire and Blood to the season 7 and 8, your opinion is absolutely worthless and completely irrelevant after that. Fire and Blood is easily beyond anything since season 5.

                                                • shenron
                                                  shenron  4 weeks back

                                                  You have no right to criticise george for milking it when you probably can't even write anything remotely close to his books. Also don't just assume he can finish it whenever he likes, ASOIAF isn't that easy to write obviously. Jesus i can't imagine how brainless this guy actually is to say he has no desire to finish it or he would......

                                                  • EMMETTCULLENHALE
                                                    EMMETTCULLENHALE  4 weeks back

                                                    GOT is dead to me. I don't care what is put out I will not watch anything from HBO, and I wont be buying George rr fatass book either. GOT died with Daenery's. Boycott GOT & .Star Wars

                                                    • Jeff Pfeiffer
                                                      Jeff Pfeiffer  4 weeks back

                                                      I won't buy a lore book or prequel book until Martin finishes A Song of Ice and Fire. Don't reward his behavior by paying attention and your hard earned money on his distractions.

                                                      • Zanzibar Breeze
                                                        Zanzibar Breeze  4 weeks back

                                                        2011 is not the early 00s.

                                                        • PyroMancer2k
                                                          PyroMancer2k  4 weeks back

                                                          The problem, besides lazy writing, I think the Hollywood has is this need to write simple easy stories because they have such a low opinion of consumers they feel anything too complex will be rejected. Part of that I think comes from what they consider "Deep" is often just political pandering garbage which is just as shallow if not more so than much of their other works.

                                                          This I think is why Game of Thrones did so well, as it was a breath of fresh air in a rather stale market. There wasn't the hero always wins because they are the hero and the villain always fails because they are evil. It was more like real stacks where one wrong move could result in death no matter how righteous or villainous you were. It created a sense of tension where character felt more believable and the victories felt truly earned.

                                                          • fine93
                                                            fine93  4 weeks back

                                                            nope GGRM doest owe you shit buddy

                                                            • fine93
                                                              fine93  4 weeks back

                                                              GRRM has a worst book????

                                                              • Dieter другliever
                                                                Dieter другliever  4 weeks back

                                                                Makes ya wonder why there is such a cult following around GRRM's works when it's generally agreed upon that his "Silmarillion" sucks... I mean c'mon if the overview is bad how can you in good faith stand behind the rest of the work? The whole thing is tedious and uninformed. This is the fantasy writer who referred to "wyverns" as "dragons" and thought he had invented the idea of them.

                                                                • That Guy
                                                                  That Guy  4 weeks back

                                                                  I've waited so long to watch this because after that ending... I just dont care anymore. I dont even care if he doesn't finish the books. I mean then I wont have to read the books to justify how horrid that tv ending was. I think that ending broke my intrest in this story.

                                                                  • Doctor Arctic
                                                                    Doctor Arctic  4 weeks back

                                                                    George doesn't owe shit to anyone

                                                                    • fine93
                                                                      fine93  4 weeks back

                                                                      exactly!!!

                                                                  • lafeil
                                                                    lafeil  4 weeks back

                                                                    Fans do not want this show, we already know whole story. We fans just want redo season 8 in book form. HBO just need learn from their mistakes and know Amazon Lord of the Ring series try do everything win fantasy pocketbooks.

                                                                    • Sonny Smith
                                                                      Sonny Smith  4 weeks back

                                                                      *shrugs* I really like Fire and Blood.

                                                                      • Phyllis Dicks
                                                                        Phyllis Dicks  1 months back

                                                                        For myself, I'm going back and giving "Wheel of Time," another spin. It's an awfully long series, and Robert Jordan has never been one of my favorite writers. But, you know what? He finished what he started.

                                                                        • Special Agent Bill Maxwell

                                                                          Bet it follows the journey of a kickass female protagonist "who don't need no man". Because expectations haven't been "subverted" quite enough with that trope.

                                                                          • Shawn Lucas
                                                                            Shawn Lucas  1 months back

                                                                            Hmm, let's see...they didn't stick the landing with GOT, so why should I care about any prequels or spinoffs? Oh yeah...I don't.

                                                                            • Blogs Blogs
                                                                              Blogs Blogs  1 months back

                                                                              I have never seen game of thrones... my wife was ill and I decided to wait till it finished and watch it on box set....
                                                                              Now not going to bother... as I can d&d better than the final season by the reviews I have seen....
                                                                              Maybe just watch old tv series.... hill street blues anyone....

                                                                              • Zack Krueger
                                                                                Zack Krueger  1 months back

                                                                                I hope they scrap the Long Night prequel. I can't be bothered to care about the White Walkers. If they go for Fire and Blood, I would hope they'd focus on the Dance of Dragons. But I'll wait and see how it looks before I renew an HBO subscription. I get the feeling they're going to run this into the ground however.

                                                                                • Anton Roby
                                                                                  Anton Roby  1 months back

                                                                                  I'm so done with GoT since they (GRRM) are milking it and being lazy with completion. Bring us The Demon Cycle series by Peter V Brett! It's just as good as GoT books,maybe better, and it's complete.

                                                                                  • This Body
                                                                                    This Body  1 months back

                                                                                    Prequels...Zzz

                                                                                    • Josh Adams
                                                                                      Josh Adams  1 months back

                                                                                      How is it boring though? Sounds better than season 8.

                                                                                      • shenron
                                                                                        shenron  4 weeks back

                                                                                        @fine93 true

                                                                                      • fine93
                                                                                        fine93  4 weeks back

                                                                                        this guy is retarded dont listen to him

                                                                                    • james Fowler
                                                                                      james Fowler  1 months back

                                                                                      agreed. subscribed

                                                                                      • harnois75
                                                                                        harnois75  1 months back

                                                                                        I thought they stopped making GoT because it was too expensive - that was the reason for the ridiculously short last two seasons. So why are they launching into more series which presumably will become equally expensive? Have they put a cap of stars fees this time or banned them form seeking other work that ups their price tag?

                                                                                        • Jason Christofilos
                                                                                          Jason Christofilos  1 months back

                                                                                          May I suggest a new author Michael Anderle and the The Kurtherian Gambit books.

                                                                                          • Phoivos Syros
                                                                                            Phoivos Syros  1 months back

                                                                                            You have to have the emotional intelligence of an adolescent to think you're entitled to Martin's future work

                                                                                            He doesn't owe you shit. And I say this is as a huge fan of A Song of Ice and Fire.