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  • Matthew Garland
    Matthew Garland  2 hours back

    Okay but why would you sign a guy who brings so much negative publicity for a above average at best quarter back

    • Grant Selly
      Grant Selly  1 days back

      Its not that Kap isn't good enough.. Its never been he's not good enough. Its not about the protests. This is 100% the media circus that would show up everyday all season long. Kap is not worth the headache. The most amazing part about this is the political mirror opposite in Tim Tebow found himself in the same position. Now Tebow isn't as good a QB as Kap is, there's no doubt about that. However, just like Kap the only reason he's not on a football team is because of the media clown car. The reality is people wanna fit this to a political narrative so bad but when really it's all about football.

      • mike jones
        mike jones  4 days back

        you see, you can find numbers in random stats to make many qbs look better then they actually are. and to say "the nfl has denied him a job" how about look at all the teams who were actually looking to sign this man and he came up with some bullshit terms or just wanted more money. this dude is a clown, political bullshit aside.

        • Mithos103
          Mithos103  4 days back

          You earned a dislike with the greatest quarterback comment ;)

          • Mediocre DeadGuy
            Mediocre DeadGuy  5 days back

            I mean, he's a mediocre QB who'd already been out of the league for a year at the time of this video, at this point, he's pretty much a back-up quality QB who wants to be paid starter money, he was offered a spot on the Ravens and Broncos, but he turned both offers down.

            • Connor Jordan
              Connor Jordan  7 days back

              So, you've never seen football? This level of statgasm is for baseball. It works for baseball. It doesn't work in football. Baseball is able to do this because every single player in the field has their assignment and they do their job.
              In football, you can run 70 offensive plays and have different personnel, different formations, different reads and different down and distance. Football is situation, emotional and every single play result affects what you'll do next. You can't point to the stats to make an argument, only hope to support one.
              If you could nerd out on stats alone you would know that the most accurate passer ever (at the time of his retirement) was Chad Pennington. He's not getting into the hall of fame. Yet, a guy who threw more interceptions than touchdowns, Joe Namath, is in the hall of fame.
              So, you can hang your head in shame on this one. Kap is not a good leader, he brings unnecessary drama and he brought this on himself.

              • Connor Jordan
                Connor Jordan  4 days back

                @Conor Hughes one of us used facts and a compelling case. The other made a snarky comment.

              • Conor Hughes
                Conor Hughes  4 days back

                If you’re going to be this butthurt about this video I’m going to have to ask you to do it with a different name

            • TheCanadianConservative

              This is a straw man argument. It's not that his stats aren't good. It's that his stats aren't good enough to justify the headache of having him as your quarterback. Adding him to your team would instantly derail the entire culture of the organization, and take all shine away from all other players on the team. Every day it would be, "How did Kaep do?" Or, "Who's fault was it for Kaep's loss?" Not to mention the potential financial loss your team could endure.

              • bigfatbreakfastboy
                bigfatbreakfastboy  2 weeks back

                "The NFL has decided [CK] isn't worth a roster spot"
                No, each TEAM (front office) has decided he isn't worth signing. Most people do know his stats aren't dreadful, the question is, when you run a business, which risks are worth taking?

                • J Phillips
                  J Phillips  2 weeks back

                  GREAT video.



                  I’m from Wisconsin by the way, so the 49ers were the bane of my existence in the 90’s.

                  • sk8ergal4747
                    sk8ergal4747  3 weeks back

                    Ew @aaron rodgers

                    • Jamir Campbell
                      Jamir Campbell  3 weeks back

                      Correction for you: He quit, he was not fired. Additionally, you could also do this exact same type of charting for T.O.or Chad Ochocinco Johnson and that would still prove nothing. All are physically gifted humans, but at some point the off/on-field drama becomes too much to overcome. The NFL is a business and if you distract from the priority of the business you will likely no longer be asked to be a part of the companies in that industry. This is not controversial from the stand point of business, it is on the other hand a political issue and therefore controversial. Plenty of stats there to analyze as well.

                      • Kyle Astill
                        Kyle Astill  3 weeks back

                        Terrelle Pryor?

                        • StevelyBruckShut
                          StevelyBruckShut  3 weeks back

                          What's funny is the Ravens were going to sign Kaepernick, and then his nut ass girlfriend called the owner a racist and Ray Lewis an uncle Tom. It's more than just talent or just the protests. His whole image reeks

                          • Garrett Cox
                            Garrett Cox  3 weeks back

                            "Aaron Rodgers the greatest quarterback of all time."

                            Ever heard of Tom Brady?

                            • Referencer E
                              Referencer E  1 days back

                              brees

                            • Fluffy Bunny
                              Fluffy Bunny  5 days back

                              If Rodgers played for Belichick as long as Brady has, I am a firm believer they have even more rings.

                            • Asher Lummis
                              Asher Lummis  2 weeks back

                              System quarterback lol

                            • Ezeckel Reichert
                              Ezeckel Reichert  2 weeks back

                              "Best" is different from "greatest". Looks like Mahomes is on track to make the whole argument moot anyway, though.

                            • Keenan McCarty
                              Keenan McCarty  2 weeks back

                              He said greatest on earth, not of all time, which in the 2017 season was definitely arguable.

                          • Collin Gallagher
                            Collin Gallagher  3 weeks back

                            Andrew luck had a 98 passer rating and just voluntarily left

                            • Holden Fegan
                              Holden Fegan  3 weeks back

                              i just got into a talk about this exact thing literally over the last 2 days both with people on social media and in person, either my FBI agent knows me super well, or Jon Bois is spying on me... or maybe Jon Bois IS my FBI agent...

                              • Victor Georgic
                                Victor Georgic  3 weeks back

                                Are you saying that David Garrard, Jim Miller, Neil Lomax, Kevin Kolb, etc retired because they were hurt? They retired because they weren't good enough to be starters and if you have a replacement level backup QB you want to sign them for cheap (ie rookie contract). Bottom line his QB rating for his last three years averages to 85.2 with a league average of 89.5 in those years. He's an average QB with political drama.

                                • GuyEndore
                                  GuyEndore  3 weeks back

                                  I thought he was out because he is poison. I won’t watch that guy play and won’t pay because he bugs me based solely on his politics.

                                  • Kyle Coultas
                                    Kyle Coultas  3 weeks back

                                    America sucks. We all follow sports to NOT FOLLOW A POLITICAL AGENDA

                                    • Gavin Regan
                                      Gavin Regan  3 weeks back

                                      And he still kneeled during the national anthem 23% of his games.

                                      • GoSlash27
                                        GoSlash27  3 weeks back

                                        Statistically, Antonio Brown is one of the greatest wideouts to ever play the game. Unlike Kaepernick, he was active just last weekend and acquitted himself well.

                                        Nevertheless, there he sits at home on the couch with no teams showing the slightest bit of interest in him. I suppose there are just some players who are unemployed simply because they are unemployable.

                                        • GoSlash27
                                          GoSlash27  1 weeks back

                                          @John Richey You didn't get my point, so perhaps I failed to explain it sufficiently. Antonio Brown is an *analogy* for Colin Kaepernick. Both played football exceptionally well, yet are unemployed. This is because there is more to the job of being a football player than simply playing football. It is in *this* area that Antonio Brown (and by extension Colin Kaepernick) failed.

                                        • John Richey
                                          John Richey  3 weeks back

                                          Did you watch the same video I did? This video wasn't about Antonio Brown, it was just pointing to the fact that Kap was an above average QB in his last year playing in the NFL. Do you disagree with that? On what basis?

                                      • LgnShorty
                                        LgnShorty  4 weeks back

                                        Well let's see. He got benched for Gabbert. He was not progressing to become better. Hell let's face it, it's a passing league. Numbers dont quite mean what they once did. I am a bi era fan, I always knew that if we had to rely on his arm we would lose. So you combine all that with the stupid bullshit baggage that he brings . A mediocre QB is not worth it. Oh and BTW he brought all the baggage on himself

                                        • Mike Martinez
                                          Mike Martinez  4 weeks back

                                          This is almost 6 minutes longer than promised

                                          • Cincy32
                                            Cincy32  4 weeks back

                                            Let's not.

                                            • Neil Mathews
                                              Neil Mathews  4 weeks back

                                              New viewer, your graphics moves and stats really are next level. Congrats

                                              • Dan Bergstrom
                                                Dan Bergstrom  4 weeks back

                                                Career pass yards per game 177ypg is all that needs to be said. Ok he was a runner tho right? Yes he was, but even if you add his career 33ypg rushing to his passing ypg we're looking at 210 total ypg for his career. The stats say it all. The guy is just an average quarterback. Add all the other stuff : team distraction, media circus, and possible loss of revenue. No team is going to risk all that for 210 total ypg. Let's also not forget he hasn't played in 3 years and it would be unlikely that he improved on these numbers and more likely they declined.

                                                • Curly Que
                                                  Curly Que  4 weeks back

                                                  Kaepernick can make the average throws of an NFL QB, but he doesn't make the tight window throws, and he knows better than to even attempt tight window throws because he learned his limitations after throwing a ton of picks in 2013-2015. If your receivers are winning their match-ups and are getting good separation Kaepernick will put up good numbers, but he isn't the type of QB to throw receivers open. Basically he is a backup QB plain and simple. Backup QB's aren't worth the risks that come with a guy like Kaepernick. He can divide a locker room with his poor understanding of American history, and his so-called activism though I fail to see how taking a knee is activism of any sort. He might be the biggest hypocrite in sports history given all the opportunities he has had both in his career, and after his career despite his skin color and running his mouth to the media, and disrespecting the country which proved his theories of America to be false. The Only reason Kaepernick doesn't have a job in the NFL is because he doesn't want a job in the NFL. I am almost certain teams have offered him opportunities on teams, but he thinks he should be handed the starting position without competing for it.

                                              • Rob Razzano
                                                Rob Razzano  4 weeks back

                                                Whether Kap is as good as other QBs in the league is one way to look at it, but you can't just say "he's better than other QBs in the league therefore he should be in the league."  There's a lot more at play other than just the protests and the distraction they cause.  There are salary cap considerations (I doubt Kap would come cheap - probably wants QB1 money).  There's the fact that many teams are always looking for a long-term heir, so if their QB1 is a veteran, there's a good chance the QB2 is young and vice versa.  But yes...there's also the fact that many teams are in red states and many football fans are dudes who love the America.

                                                • Lucas John Potter
                                                  Lucas John Potter  4 weeks back

                                                  Rewatching this after watching the Jets start Trevor Siemien and play Luke Falk after Siemien gets injured.

                                                  In the same week that Drew Brees sustained an injury that will put him out for six weeks.

                                                  And the same week that Ben Roethlisberger sustained a season-ending injury.

                                                  And the same week that Ryan Fitzpatrick went 11/21 for 89 yards, 0 TDs, and 3 picks

                                                  A week after Nick Foles sustained a season ending injury.

                                                  • Lucas John Potter
                                                    Lucas John Potter  3 weeks back

                                                    Okay.

                                                  • WWS
                                                    WWS  4 weeks back

                                                    JETS- why would they sign a QB when there franchise QB should be back by week 5.
                                                    Saints- they traded for teddy bridgewater and regularly use taysom hill. it would be a waste of a trade
                                                    steelers-they drafted mason rudolph for a reason. they also got rid of atonio brown because of the media attention he brought. why would they bring in someone who does the same thing as brown. it would also be a waste of a draft pick.
                                                    dolphins-they traded for young QB josh rosen. he hasn't started yet why would they give up on him now.
                                                    Jaguars-they too drafted a QB for a reason and he was solid in his first two games.
                                                    every thing you mentioned can be dissolved to either a waste of a trade, draft pick and money since there coming back soon. please look into these things before you write them.

                                                • David Martin
                                                  David Martin  4 weeks back

                                                  Take a minute to appreciate Drew Brees insane stats given the teams that's been around him. Lately they've been good but he didn't have a defense for a long time and put up masterful numbers and still managed decent seasons.

                                                  • Colby Hill
                                                    Colby Hill  4 weeks back

                                                    Yeah, but even still the media circus around him wasn't worth it like Brown today.

                                                    • Colby Hill
                                                      Colby Hill  4 weeks back

                                                      @Zachary Jobe My point was that they attract the media like moths to a bulb, and most teams don't want that kind of attention on them. Also, I think the Patriots shouldn't have signed AB, they rewarded his hissy fit and now he's going to most likely do it again.

                                                    • Zachary Jobe
                                                      Zachary Jobe  4 weeks back

                                                      Weird that you would compare Kaep and Antonio Brown, completely different situations, but to mention that AB is playing for the Pat's this Sunday

                                                  • Lil Bits
                                                    Lil Bits  1 months back

                                                    So about this video you never bring up qbr and adjusted value which shows kap to being a backup quarterback at best and the guy wants 20 million a year that’s why he isn’t on a team

                                                    • Aj Hollingsworth
                                                      Aj Hollingsworth  1 months back

                                                      Kap is only out of the league because he affected the money.

                                                      • K2 Mally
                                                        K2 Mally  1 months back

                                                        Ticket sales did go down between 2016 and 2017. https://www.statista.com/statistics/193420/regular-season-attendance-in-the-nfl-since-2006/ However the San Diego chargers went from a Stadium 70k to 20k in their move to LA. Which explains a majority of the drop in attendance.

                                                        And viewership did go down as well. https://www.businessinsider.com/nfl-ratings-faced-steeper-declines-in-2017-2018-1 However I think this can also be explained by more viewers cutting the cable cord and lessening the validity of traditional measuring television rating numbers.

                                                        And kicking out a player and making and example out of him is blackballing him. That is why Kaep ended suing the NFL and ended up settling.

                                                      • Aj Hollingsworth
                                                        Aj Hollingsworth  1 months back

                                                        @K2 Mally the NFL lost a lot of money because of the protest, ticket sales were terrible, merchandise sales we're low, viewership was low. The NFL and the owners made an example out of him and the rest of the league took the hint that's why kneeling went away shortly after everybody seen he didn't have a job.

                                                      • K2 Mally
                                                        K2 Mally  1 months back

                                                        Elaborate on that.

                                                    • Pennywise Wadford
                                                      Pennywise Wadford  1 months back

                                                      Yes, lets hear about how he turned down two jobs then proceeded to sue the NFL for being "black balled" or about how it was the D that carried the 49ers

                                                      • Brett Johnson
                                                        Brett Johnson  1 months back

                                                        Pennywise Wadford so you’re just ignoring all the offensive stats he just pointed out? Lmao alright cool, just shows that you aren’t right 🤷🏼‍♂️

                                                      • Pennywise Wadford
                                                        Pennywise Wadford  1 months back

                                                        @Brett Johnson salty child? That D carried them not Kap. Get real man.

                                                      • Brett Johnson
                                                        Brett Johnson  1 months back

                                                        Didn’t know that the offensive stats he put up were because of the defense lmao you should like a salty child

                                                    • Spooky Fool
                                                      Spooky Fool  1 months back

                                                      Alright now imma debunk your "This guy" starters. In 2016 Jacoby Brissett was traded for to be a back up not a full fledged starters for years to come (even now hes only signed to a 2 year deal. Cam Newton came off of a 2015 super bowl appearance and mvp season so that's a given the Panthers wouldn't get Kaep. Tom Savage did have the starting job but at the same time record wise the Texans were doing better. Flacco has the job for his ring and being in a tough division with decent receivers. Cutler was with Miami who waited on Tannehill to come back. Bortles came off a decent season and saw it as a rough season. Case Keenum and Jared Goff both were with Jeff Fischer and you dont wanna give up on a first round pick early. Brock was given so much money by the texand so they shot themselves in the foot. Paxton was a 1st round pick who never really got to play. Your basis is that all these QBs didnt do anything but have starting jobs I mean how is that different from Colin? Sure a high QB rating is nice but when your numbers are only a step up from even Joe flacco in scoring what gonna change? Even with the awful defense in 11 games he averaged 1.8 TDs a game but he did have a game where all 4 of his INTs were in and a game he threw for 4 TDs so his averages are inflated cause of a few good games but really he was inconsistent. Just a step up doesnt mean you're good cause once more Dak was a step down from Romo and they still have the same look from each others first few season. Colin isnt signed cause no one wants a step they want a leap like with the Niners getting Jimmy g that's a leap

                                                      • The Scribe
                                                        The Scribe  1 months back

                                                        I can't resist the urge to say it.

                                                        He's out of the league because he went political in a business that is very strictly *not* political.

                                                        People get fired all the time for having the right opinion, the wrong opinion, or just *some* opinion on a political basis. I hear people being chastised for stuff like this in stores I frequent plenty. It has nothing to do with the views being espoused. It has nothing to do with the person hearing it having a disagreement on the subject. It has to do with not wanting to be associated with politics and, as result, alienating a potential buyer base off of something that *isn't* your product.

                                                        He could have taken to twitter about it, he could have done interviews about it (and I'm certain he did after all the trouble he caused in the immediate aftermath) but instead he made a choice to politicize the actual event. This was in the cycle of the game for months. It detracted from the event and was a total side-show that did absolutely nothing. Teams spent time and mental energy figuring out how to best handle the kneeling controversy with mixed results, all of which came at the expense of the quality of the game. If he was an asset of immense value to the League, he might have survived the controversy. He wasn't a nobody, but he wasn't Brett Favre.

                                                        Wherever he lands, if he does land, it will be the same circus all over again, because he's politicized himself. He's obviously smart enough to make it through college and then into the NFL. He should have known better. Adults own their mistakes. He made a mistake. He needs to own it. I don't know how you fix the situation he caused, from his perspective. All I know is that he caused it.

                                                        • The Scribe
                                                          The Scribe  1 months back

                                                          @Chris Warren No, you have simply missed the point. He wasn't good enough to have the controversy not sink him. That doesn't mean he was bad, that simply means he wasn't good enough. As I've already made the point before, if he were someone of immense value to the league (MVP calibur with one or two titles) and the league saw it that way, it wouldn't have ended his career. You can be good and still not be "good enough" so don't confuse that as my point.

                                                          Secondly, it is *absolutely* a mistake. He wasn't noticed at first, and sure, what he did seems innocuous (which it was) and at that point, it probably wasn't a mistake. The mistake was politicizing it once he was questioned about it, and continuing even through criticisms of it. You say "nobody noticed the kneeling" and yet in the same breath state "The president called it out as disrespectful" and yet you have no idea how it got from nobody noticing to the President condemning it. It's because in interviews (where they finally asked him what he was doing) he went straight to the point and told them it was in protest to police brutality, which is what the media will tell you he was doing to spin it, when in reality what he *ACTUALLY* said was *"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."* Quaint.

                                                          When the criticisms come back for his actions, he doesn't stop. He doubles down. And again, he could have taken to twitter about it, he could have done interviews on it, he could have got the message out in a way that didn't politicize the game, which he absolutely did for weeks thereafter. But he kept kneeling during the national anthem, which was politicizing the game and turning the national anthem into a protest event for the rest of the league for months. This was a mistake. You might not think it was a mistake. That's unfortunate, because then you have to go read the definition of mistake.

                                                          As for "working in an industry," yes. Yes, if you steal from a department store while working at a department store, you shouldn't work at a department store. You've shown yourself to be dishonorable and lacking in integrity. They can't trust you won't do it again, they'd much rather hire someone with a clean slate who hasn't made a similar mistake. The NFL reported an 8% drop in viewership as a result of player protests on the field. Imagine taking a crowbar to 8% of a department store.

                                                          They aren't keeping him off the field because of his off-the-field antics. He's off the field because he refuses to keep his off-the-field actions off the field and he's not going to be trusted with changing that habit, much like the career thief in a department store. If was a more valuable asset to the league and had a more solid reputation, he might have stayed around simply on the basis of being more reputable. Is his skill the reason he can't play anymore? Not at all. Could he have been skilled enough, and respected enough, to still play? Absolutely. The mistakes he made would have probably been survived by an MVP calibur player. Just look at Cam Newton. Literal teapot but he was MVP that one time.

                                                        • Chris Warren
                                                          Chris Warren  1 months back

                                                          You inadvertently stumbled on the very argument to prove that his not being in the NFL has nothing to do with ability. I do disagree with the idea that his stance is somehow a mistake. A mistake is driving on an expired license, or accidently backing into a parked car. Kaepernick had been kneeling for several weeks before it ever made it into the media, and he even reached out to military folks to get their input on his action. The controversy came when the President decided to say how awful and disrespectful kneeling was (still don't understand how that came to be). Even if you still want to say that it was a mistake, is your argument that one mistake should be grounds for employers to keep you from even getting a chance to work in that industry.

                                                          The simple fact is that Owners and GMs don't want to say that they aren't willing to sign him because of the off the field stuff because they know that a greater spotlight would be placed on the actions of all players that they have signed or continue to keep on the roster.

                                                      • Windw00d
                                                        Windw00d  1 months back

                                                        Its pretty clear that he doesn't have a job because of the kneeling. If Tom Brady threw a Hitler salute, you would bet he'd also be out of a job and no team would want to sign him. At the end of the day the NFL is a business. If something becomes to hot and fans start burning Jerseys and stop showing up to games, yeah the owners are going to do what they have to do.



                                                        Personally I don't care what he does off the field. If he wants to protest against police brutality go for it, but when he puts on that uniform its time for work. As someone who works with a lot of customers at my job, if I started talking politics with them, I would be fired so fast your head would spin. So why should Kaepernick be immune to that? Most people use football as a way to escape the politics and he's bringing it to the forefront. Yeah people are going to get mad. Either way, it seems to have worked out well for him. Being sponsored by Nike goes a long way.

                                                        • ThisIsMyRealName
                                                          ThisIsMyRealName  1 months back

                                                          4) you don't get to tell an activist, or even someone who made a single political action once, how to do it. that's just fantasy, you're being disingenuous oh, and you know it. Kaepernick didn't break the law, he didn't even violate his contract. lots of white people told the same thing to the Civil Rights Movement: "we don't like how you're doing it", "do it later", etc. Kaepernick is an athlete, more people are watching him on screen when he's on the field than off; is not an actor; he's not a billionaire, he can't just buy TV advertising or whole TV programs get his message across. NBC isn't giving pro bono airtime every Monday to report on police brutality.

                                                        • ThisIsMyRealName
                                                          ThisIsMyRealName  1 months back

                                                          3) there is a team called the "Patriots", which you may not know; their colors are the same colors as the USA flag. this is political.

                                                        • ThisIsMyRealName
                                                          ThisIsMyRealName  1 months back

                                                          2) Brady wore a MAGA hat while talking to reporters and wearing Patriots logos, which is a political statement in support of a presidential candidate during a contested election, helping the current President get elected. Brady was not fired for this. this is political, but it's right-wing politics, which is acceptable. why? because the majority of NFL franchises' owners are Republicans, and they put their money where their mouth is, by donating millions to Republican magicians, and hundreds of thousands to right-wing Democratic politicians.

                                                        • ThisIsMyRealName
                                                          ThisIsMyRealName  1 months back

                                                          1) Football already has politics. the national anthem we're forced to listen to every single game, which also forces non-American citizens to act like traitors to their own nation; military aircraft flying around, permanently damaging our hearing.

                                                          also, did you just start watching football last year? or do you have amnesia and can't remember how players didn't have to "stand for the anthem", even after 9/11.

                                                      • Oliver Emsick
                                                        Oliver Emsick  1 months back

                                                        Lap ran a limited scheme offense tailored for his inconsistent accuracy.

                                                        • Krystal Giove
                                                          Krystal Giove  1 months back

                                                          And his final season which he 'supposedly' became a horrible Quarterback because his teams lost every game.. yeah.. people love to forget about what cancer Mr. York had created going into that season because of the Harbaugh drama and basically convincing a bunch of studs to retire early or leave free agency rather than deal with that horrid 49er management. Nothing about San Fransisco's demise was Kaepernick's fault. They ran out the coach in Harbaugh that the team LOVED.. and 1 year later they were using Chip Kelly xD

                                                          • Ben Nelson
                                                            Ben Nelson  1 months back

                                                            Lol let’s not

                                                            • Anthony Aragon
                                                              Anthony Aragon  1 months back

                                                              Talk about Dez Bryant. He was higher in his position that kaepernick was and unsigned because of being a distraction.

                                                              • D Ha
                                                                D Ha  1 months back

                                                                When you mention all the people worse the kap that still play I'm sure he ain't around because he wanted to much money the other guys still had time on their contract or were getting paid a fraction of what kap wanted

                                                                • Conner Lamb
                                                                  Conner Lamb  1 months back

                                                                  Let’s talk about the mail. Can we talk about the mail Mac? I’ve been dying to talk about the mail.

                                                                  • ChumblesMumbles
                                                                    ChumblesMumbles  1 months back

                                                                    A more honest if cowardly excuse would be "I don't want the pain in the ass". And at this point, cost isn't even a factor, as he'd be cheaper at the veteran minimum than a 3rd round pick rookie, and most of the veteran backups in the league right now, many of whom are terrible (looking at you, Colt McCoy)

                                                                    • Patrick Ogle
                                                                      Patrick Ogle  1 months back

                                                                      Ironic that Jacoby Brissett has a callout in this video. C'mon Colts. Do the right thing.

                                                                      • Lawn Fascist
                                                                        Lawn Fascist  2 months back

                                                                        I dont think it's an issue of him being good enough. But is he good enough to put up with all the off the field nonsense? I'd say no. But that's just me. He's not back playing ball for a reason, and I believe it's because he isn't good enough to deal with all the other nonsense.

                                                                        • 67L48
                                                                          67L48  2 months back

                                                                          I don't think it would change the outcome, but it would deepen the conversation if you also included similar QBs that couldn't/can't get a job -- there are tons of QBs who were forced into retirement. Kaep isn't actually the only QB out there better than Drew Stanton (e.g.) who is at home watching and wondering, "Why can't I get a job, but Stanton can?!"

                                                                          Tebow is another guy whose polarizing political position hurt him. RGIII was mentioned as injured, but after his quick demise in Washington, nobody is very interested in giving him a 2nd shot -- it took a desperate Cleveland for him to even find the field again. Shaun Hill. Fitzpatrick was out of work for a while before tearing it up in Tampa briefly.

                                                                          I don't think McNabb was ready to retire. Vince Young often lamented not getting a second chance.

                                                                          The point is that there are a lot of out-of-work QBs that are still much better than those carrying clipboards. But, by including these other QBs in the analysis, you can then show that Kaep is head-shoulders above them, too. By limiting the conversation to only active QBs, you're left with the following: "Sure, Kaep is better than a lot of these guys. But, so are some other forced-retirees out there. Kaep might be getting screwed, but not any more so than a dozen other guys." It would be good to put that argument to bed, too.

                                                                          Kurt Warner proved that sometimes scouts are just terrible at judging talent. Last year Philip Lindsay proved the same. Warren Moon had to start in Canada. Doug Floutie was way too small for the NFL ... until he wasn't. So, again, tons of good QBs are out there that can't crack into the league. I'd love to see more comps to those guys.

                                                                          • 67L48
                                                                            67L48  1 months back

                                                                            @Chris Warren We'll have to agree to disagree about Tebow.

                                                                            I have no idea what those RBs' criminal behavior has to do with anything. I can't follow that line of logic.

                                                                            The video shows that Kaep was good enough to play, at least as a backup. I agree. It doesn't show that he's unique in any way. He may be. But, the video doesn't show that. Without any of that, we can't really speculate to motives. When you state a disingenuous (your actual word) or a cover, that speaks to motive. We don't know that. As I've shown over and over again, there are countless examples where teams and owners simply get talent evaluation wrong, get the data wrong, and make horrible decisions. Nobody was conspiring against Kurt Warner for the years he spent out of the league ... it was just good old fashioned incompetence. Is that the same for Kaep? I don't know. Maybe.

                                                                            Is it disingenuous? Maybe. Is it a cover? Maybe. Is it nefarious? Maybe. Is it simply everyone poorly concluding that Kaep was washed up (same as CJ Anderson right before Gurley went down last year)? Maybe. We just don't know. Speculate all you want. The data don't show it ... and that's what this video is about. Data-driven conclusions.

                                                                          • Chris Warren
                                                                            Chris Warren  1 months back

                                                                            @67L48 Tebow absolutely only played as long as he did because of his outspoken religious views. He had a career passing completion percentage below 50 percent. As far as if the owners don't want a polarizing player, I would disagree, owners tolerate all kinds of behavior that is reprehensible as long as they are making money. Just look at Adrian Peterson, he has admitted to hitting his child with a belt, and yet he is still on an NFL roster. If it weren't for a video, Ray Rice would still be on an NFL team.

                                                                            If the protests were as damaging as some seem to say, the fact that NFL revenue increased and continue to increase each year, despite the perception that someone kneeling would cause negative backlash, there just isn't any proof that its true. At the end of the day all that people really want is an honest answer.

                                                                            After the 2017 season, which was Kaepernick's last year, in Denver there was some discussion about bringing him in as the QB situation was just not acceptable. John Elway refused to even bring him in to talk because in his words 'He had a chance to be here (reference to the previous year's trade proposal) and he turned it down'. That chance of course was contingent on him accepting a massive pay cut.

                                                                            It is absolutely reasonable to come to the conclusion that saying, Kaepernick isn't good enough to play in the NFL, is not an honest answer. The conclusion that the worst reason for that dishonesty being a cover for something else, is also a fully reasonable conclusion for the worst possible scenario. I'm not suggesting that it is anything other than suspicious considering everything else that seems to be tolerated in the NFL.

                                                                          • 67L48
                                                                            67L48  1 months back

                                                                            @Chris Warren You only get to make those last two conclusions if you prove that Kaep is unique. The video didn't do this. It proved his stats were good enough to play and it stopped there. But, as I said above, that doesn't make him unique because there are a ton of guys good enough to play who never do. For every Kurt Warner who went from bagging groceries to Super Bowl MVP, there are 50 guys who never got a chance. Kaep's story isn't unique until data show otherwise.


                                                                            Tebow opportunities dried up due to his controversy, same as Kaep. Different type of controversy, different type of distraction. But, same result. Tebow definitely didn't stick around because of Christianity ... he was run out of the league because of it. Nobody wants a polarizing player ... taking a knee, for whatever reason, isn't a good thing for a team owner.

                                                                          • Chris Warren
                                                                            Chris Warren  1 months back

                                                                            Tebow didn't get signed to any other teams because he wasn't a good quarterback and he wouldn't change positions. The only reason he lasted as long as he did in the league was because of his super public 'I'm a christian' stance. RG3 had amazing promise until he got injured, and then the redskins ruined his career trying to get him back to playing too soon.

                                                                            I agree that there are plenty of QBs who didn't get chances, Kaepernick was given the go ahead to explore trade chances with teams in 2016. Only Denver offered any sort of deal, however, The Denver offer was what any NFL caliber quarterback would call a joke in that it was a contract offer worth 7 million, a nearly 5 million dollar pay cut with no promise of a long term deal after the season. Instead Kaepernick stayed in SF and put up the season that was discussed in the video.

                                                                            Overall the point of this video was to point out that the stance that Kaepernick isn't good enough to play in the league is by the stats, laughably disingenuous at best, and a flat out cover story for something else at worst.

                                                                        • l
                                                                          l  2 months back

                                                                          "if you take out all these guys that are almost as good as Kap, Kap is the only one"

                                                                          • Coteup
                                                                            Coteup  2 months back

                                                                            Those were guys who were injured or voluntarily left the game, not the guys who weren't on a team anymore because nobody wanted them.

                                                                        • 12 PackersFan
                                                                          12 PackersFan  2 months back

                                                                          By retiring at 29, Andrew Luck pretty much breaks every statistic involving age in this vid

                                                                          • Adam M
                                                                            Adam M  3 days back

                                                                            @Pennywise Wadford You're a politically motivated imbecile.

                                                                          • mike jones
                                                                            mike jones  4 days back

                                                                            kap pretty much got offered a spot with at least twk teams and either demanded more money or made dumb political statements directly contadicting the beliefs of the team right when talks heated up. he played himself.

                                                                          • siralexander12
                                                                            siralexander12  5 days back

                                                                            Lmao 🤦🏾‍♂️

                                                                          • Frank Nitti
                                                                            Frank Nitti  2 weeks back

                                                                            And?

                                                                          • Ben Schocket-Greene
                                                                            Ben Schocket-Greene  2 weeks back

                                                                            @Jon S I agree. I'm not really trying to argue with anyone, I'm just sort of expressing my sadness with this situation